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SignalAd6052 · 2023-07-05T14:35:29+00:00

My son met his new teacher for year 2 yesterday. The teacher has told them in September if they don't get 7/10 on their spellings homework, or forget their reading book or homework they will have to stay in at playtime. They just seem so.... young

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whereaw · 09/07/2023 08:40

@avocadotofu good to hear, I'm pretty sure most teachers wouldn't either. Besides the issue of some children naturally struggling more you also don't know what is going on at home, they could have a difficult week, ill parent or sibling, difficult home life etc. Any teacher who thinks this is a good idea probably shouldn't be teaching.

AngryGreasedSantaCatcus · 09/07/2023 10:27

I'm a TA and I find it very harsh. Mainly because at that age kids have no control or enough independence and ability to ensure those things are done, independent of a parent. Particularly those with SEN, from chaotic homes, young carers etc. Once again it will target the most vulnerable and in need of support, while the kids that already have that advantage will just sail through unencumbered.

AngryGreasedSantaCatcus · 09/07/2023 10:31

whereaw · 09/07/2023 08:33

@Sirzy they aren't for us, and how does that work for giving the test, splitting the class up and doing different versions of it?

Yes. Sentence for group 1, sentence for group 2. Or if there is staff (some school managed to keep their TA's/intervention TA's) they take a different group.

Otherwise you either keep the whole class low and delay their progression or the struggling kids(for various reasons) will fail every single time and miss every play. Neither are an acceptable practice.

AngryGreasedSantaCatcus · 09/07/2023 10:37

Seashor · 09/07/2023 07:56

Try teaching a class of 34 where a good proportion of them don’t have the necessary equipment! Parents, get your shit together and make sure that your children have what they need, you choose to have them.

The spellings will be differentiated and all special needs taken into account but again parents support YOUR children at home. Why in the UK do parents take such a low view on education and those who try to deliver it!!!

In our school we have kids with SEN, loads of children in care, children who are a young carer, children who have parents with learning difficulties, children with parents who have drug/alcohol issues or mental health issues, children who have separated parents and at least one of them is pretty crap ,children living in bedsits, , children that don't have enough food at home, children with chaotic homes and so on.

What happens to them? Their lives already are significantly harder and being punished for things that aren't under their control won't make them appreciate education or feel safe.

It's easy to say parents get your shit together, but some can't or won't , and it's not right to punish their children for that.

purpleme12 · 09/07/2023 10:44

Our school do the same

TheIsleOfTheLost · 09/07/2023 10:58

Terrible policy, it just sets up the kids that struggle to fail. Their behaviour will get worse as no break to let off steam and they will be too busy thinking it is unfair to concentrate. My kids have such a fear of their break being taken. Even 3 minutes would be the worst punishment imaginable to them. All this inspires is disliking their teacher. Teachers should inspire their class to want to learn, not threaten them into it.

Thesearmsofmine · 09/07/2023 11:03

Stuff like this makes me so thankful that my kids aren’t stuck in the school system. (I know not all teachers/schools are like this).

OhhhhhhhhBiscuits · 09/07/2023 16:25

TeenDivided · 09/07/2023 08:29

Y2 is limited to 30 usually.

My DD turned out to be dyslexic. The amount of effort we put into spellings and times tables over the years. Both relatively fruitless.

Spellings were not differentiated either.

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This is what we will be like. She will be tested for SPLD next year as we are 99% sure she has dyslexia and the teacher in Y1 has said she has similar concerns. I don't think they differentiate spellings in her school so it will be horrific for her to possibly get 0/10 every week and then have to miss her playtime.

We have done school reading book 5 days a week and signed her reading record to that effect. Other reading books at the weekend, she listens to some of her audio books daily, and we read to her as well daily. We have also started the Hornet reading and phonics book and we do this 4 times a week. Adding on spellings and times tables is going to be so difficult in time and child's attention. My priority is to help her to read, that is something that she needs for life, we have a coloured overlay that works well for her, but until she gets a proper diagnosis they won't give any other adjustments.

AngryGreasedSantaCatcus · 09/07/2023 17:39

@OhhhhhhhhBiscuits the thing is you do have options and you do have a say. Arrange a meeting with the senco to discuss next year. Presumably she is behind in reading and writing so what are THEY putting in place? Ask them to ensure she's at a phonics stage suitable for her ability (rather than pointlessly moved up). Spellings (and reading books for best practice) should match the phonics she is learning. If that's not the case ask for differentiated spellings. This differentiation can either be based on her level (which would be best) or having only 5 words for example. Out of those help her learn them by rote(if memory is good) as many as she can. Word of warning, phonics don't work for all kids, especially those kids who can't differentiate between the letters so can't actually identify the digraphs or trigraphs to use them. So you/the school will have to find other ways to teach and support her.

If you can afford it, I highly recommend the Reading Revival scheme. It's quite pricey , £70 but it focuses on word repetition and recognition rather than phonics so it's great for children that need an alternative method.

OhhhhhhhhBiscuits · 09/07/2023 18:03

AngryGreasedSantaCatcus · 09/07/2023 17:39

@OhhhhhhhhBiscuits the thing is you do have options and you do have a say. Arrange a meeting with the senco to discuss next year. Presumably she is behind in reading and writing so what are THEY putting in place? Ask them to ensure she's at a phonics stage suitable for her ability (rather than pointlessly moved up). Spellings (and reading books for best practice) should match the phonics she is learning. If that's not the case ask for differentiated spellings. This differentiation can either be based on her level (which would be best) or having only 5 words for example. Out of those help her learn them by rote(if memory is good) as many as she can. Word of warning, phonics don't work for all kids, especially those kids who can't differentiate between the letters so can't actually identify the digraphs or trigraphs to use them. So you/the school will have to find other ways to teach and support her.

If you can afford it, I highly recommend the Reading Revival scheme. It's quite pricey , £70 but it focuses on word repetition and recognition rather than phonics so it's great for children that need an alternative method.

Thank you so much. I will look into Reading Revival. We have been looking at toe by toe as well to do after she has finished Hornet. She sees some letters but doesn't really see trigraphs and digraphs. She sounds out the whole word which obviously then doesn't always make sense. Also H she sees as N so how is now etc......

Alicat63 · 01/12/2023 18:36

Start with threats..what a healthy and clever way to encourage kids! I despair sometimes..