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What age writing / spelling would you say this is?

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PucketyPuckPuck · 24/06/2023 13:20

I know all dc develop at different stages and this is only a snapshot but I'm just curious of other opinions. I'm really not sure if dc3 is average or behind.

Writing a list of things to sell in his shop, completed by him independently when I was out of the room.

Thanks in advance!

Pensul
Hefons
Gleuw
Roelur
Fish
Swimin stuff
Barth bom
Bukit

Pencil
Headphones
Glue
Ruler
Fish
Swimming stuff
Bath bomb
Bucket

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Summerishereagain · 24/06/2023 13:22

I’m sure my just turned aged 7 yrs old would write something similar. Writing is a lot more than spelling, I would speak to the teacher if you’re concerned but at this point in the year they should have told you if they are or aren’t meeting expectations.

RoseLarkin · 24/06/2023 13:26

I'm not sure how old your DC is but this looks very similar to the lists my daughter writes, she's just turned 5 and is at the end of her reception year.

sevenbyseven · 24/06/2023 13:27

DD1 wrote like that in late Reception. DD2 probably more like age 9 or 10.

ohidoliketobe · 24/06/2023 13:30

My almost 9 year old wrotes very similar to this. Over applies the 'rules' for vowel sounds in a way that sounds very much like our accent - I.e. lots of spelling mistakes but when you sound them out phonetically it makes perfect sense what he's written.
School have assessed for dyslexia and dyspraxia but it's purely his spelling. Reading and co-ordination are both fine. It's a case of hammering his spellings by memory each week, or we shrug it off and say you know what, not everyone is amazing at spelling. It was getting to the point where he wasn't competing much work in class because he was worried about spelling things wrong.
School have been very supportive, between home and school we have a united front in messaging that ultimately, writing down what he knows, and showing the evidence where needed etc, is more important than spelling everything correctly. You might lose a few marks for spelling in an assessment, but you'll have shown your understanding by getting what you can written down, rather than sat worrying about how spell one word for ten minutes.

shams05 · 24/06/2023 13:32

I'd say 6
DD just turned 7 and in this last 6/7 months spelling has improved massively but at the begining of year 2 she would have spelled some of her words similarly

Foxesandsquirrels · 24/06/2023 13:34

How long is a piece of string. Could be 5, could be 10. Depends on a lot. As for the unrealistic national curriculum expectations I suspect they should be spelling those words correctly in Y1.

skgnome · 24/06/2023 13:34

My DD is dyslexic- so cannot compare
but when I was comparing I saw several 9-10 yo that spelled like that
i also knew some 6yo with perfect spelling

Foxesandsquirrels · 24/06/2023 13:35

@ohidoliketobe What dyslexia assessment did they use? A proper EP? If it's a dyslexia screener than forget it. If your child is 9 and spelling like this, I'd be very surprised if they're not dyslexic.

Soontobe60 · 24/06/2023 13:41

Foxesandsquirrels · 24/06/2023 13:35

@ohidoliketobe What dyslexia assessment did they use? A proper EP? If it's a dyslexia screener than forget it. If your child is 9 and spelling like this, I'd be very surprised if they're not dyslexic.

They could be - but also lots of children who have had things like Glue ear / ear infections in their early years leading to a degree of hearing impairment might also spell like this as they will struggle to hear some of the sounds such as ‘d’ in headphones of ‘g’ in swimming. A dyslexia screening tool would indicate the risk of dyslexia, following which an EP or specialist assessor can do a full assessment.
OP, has your DC had rigorous phonics teaching?

NewAnon · 24/06/2023 13:44

The DC has spelled all of those words (with except of headphones) reasonably phonetically.

DD's spelling is a little more reliable than this, but she makes similar phonetic guesses, she's 6 (7 in November).

Dragonsandcats · 24/06/2023 13:46

I’d guess about 6?

BungleandGeorge · 24/06/2023 13:49

I’d guess 7. It really depends a lot on how much exposure they’ve had to reading etc and practising spellings etc. they’re pretty much all phonetically correct , they’re mainly sight words that would need to be learned.

PucketyPuckPuck · 24/06/2023 13:50

Thanks all, big range but I do find the posts reassuring. I was half expecting a lot of posts saying this was average for age 3 and I should be worried.

He's in Y1, he just turned 6 this month.

He's come on a lot in the last few months... at the start of this year if I'd even suggested he wrote a list he'd have been stumped and demanding I help with every word, got frustrated quickly and cried. Now suddenly he's picking up pens and writing lists and sentences independently, from choice and is quite comfortable attempting any word, without help.

I also have two teens - but apart from seeming a life time ago when they were 6, they were both advanced in reading and writing and years ahead of peers so I have no 'normal' to judge from.

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NewAnon · 24/06/2023 13:54

I just tested DD (yr1) on them...

Pensil
Hedfones
Glow
Fish
Swimming stuf
Barth bom
Bukit

So V similar.

She's an only child but both DH and I were early readers and writers (I was confirmed hyperlexic), she has made huge progress in year 1, but I sometimes worry about it too.

PucketyPuckPuck · 24/06/2023 13:56

OP, has your DC had rigorous phonics teaching?

Yes, he has. All through school so far, every parents meeting has been the same. Happy boy, loves school, loves helping people and building things, great at maths, struggling with phonics and reading. TA giving him extra support with his phonics to help. Rinse and repeat for 3 years!

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Foxesandsquirrels · 24/06/2023 13:57

Soontobe60 · 24/06/2023 13:41

They could be - but also lots of children who have had things like Glue ear / ear infections in their early years leading to a degree of hearing impairment might also spell like this as they will struggle to hear some of the sounds such as ‘d’ in headphones of ‘g’ in swimming. A dyslexia screening tool would indicate the risk of dyslexia, following which an EP or specialist assessor can do a full assessment.
OP, has your DC had rigorous phonics teaching?

Definitely but that's taken into account when deciding to do an assessment. By 9 or 10, any effects of glue ear should've been addressed and the spelling shouldn't be this bad. I assess for dyslexia and those screeners are notoriously rubbish. They only really flag a certain type of dyslexia.

Jwhb · 24/06/2023 14:00

Sounds about right. It's working towards year one, not a real concern at that age though. He's using phonics really well on those words, except for missing a d in headphones, which may be a phonological issue or just a mistake.

Freeekedout · 24/06/2023 14:00

He would've done the Year One phonics screener. If he passed that then you'll know he's where he is meant to be. I'm a teacher and spellings aren't expected to be perfect at this age. They are good phonetically plausible attempts. No problem at all.

nozbottheblue · 24/06/2023 16:07

Ex primary teacher here- that looks really good, in that he's confidently working out how he thinks words might be spelled. The important thing is to encourage him doing things like making lists. He will pick up "correct" spelling all in good time. There are so many non-standard spellings to learn in English: just in that little list there's ph for the f sound in headphones and a silent b in bomb...!

RuthW · 24/06/2023 17:32

Between 6-10

NCTDN · 24/06/2023 18:00

I love the bath bomb spelling - can tell you're down southGrin

Miriam101 · 24/06/2023 19:41

My DD also Yr 1 recently turned 6 spells like this- except we would definitely have had "barf bom"!

Lindtnotlint · 25/06/2023 18:01

I have three kids of relevant ages and was going to say Yr 1 before you said it. Seems fine to me, not a “gifted speller” but having a good go and using phonic knowledge

MusicMum80s · 26/06/2023 11:04

My DD's teacher has said spelling is very linked to reading for pleasure. His phonics seem fine. Learning how to spell words where there are multiple plausible phonic options largely requires recognising what 'looks' right. The best way to improve his spelling is just encouraging him to read more and doing word games like word searches etc in a fun way.

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