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I have just realsied that I have no clue about DS going to school....

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JeremyVile · 08/02/2008 17:08

He is 2 next month, so not for a while but we are making plans re another baby and relocating - and I realise there are a lot of things I just dont know about Ds and school.

When will he start?
Is reception non-compulsory?
At what point do they go full time?
Whe is a good time to apply
Does anyone know a good website for school comparisons?

Oh, and any other tips you want to share / glaring gaps in my question list!

Um, I think that's it. For now

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TotalChaos · 08/02/2008 17:14

I think they usually start the September after their 4th birthday. Reception isn't compulsory, but that means that children go straight into year1, without having an adjustment period iyswim. The usual time to apply is Nov of the year before they start. Ofsted website is a good starting point.

clutteredup · 08/02/2008 17:19

One of the property search websites has school comparisons for the area I can't remember which one but I'll see if I can find it.
They start school year after 4th birthday but in England its not compulsory till school year after 5th birthday but many schools fill up in reception so its a risk if they don't start with the others as you can't reserve a place.
Depends on school as to full time some start straight away, some do staggered entry, some do ams/pms and later before half term go full time, you'd need to check individual schools.
You have to apply before Nov/Dec the year before they start, depends again on local authority, you can of course apply later but might miss out on choice of schools. You can't apply unless you have an address in the catchment area.
HTH, will try to find website now.

clutteredup · 08/02/2008 17:23

Here it is findaproperty.com Do a property search then click on show area info. good luck.

JeremyVile · 09/02/2008 13:37

Thanks for that, I have actually been using findaproperty, I just hadn't reealised it gave area info too!

So basically, he'll start reception Sep 09 when he's 3.5 and I need to apply for that this november. If his reception year doesn't start off full time it will become full time after a little while.

Have I got that right?

I just don't know why I get so confused by all this

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discoverlife · 09/02/2008 13:42

for everything about your area

Your child does not need to start school until the September of the year they turn 5. They don't even need to ever go to school if you Home Educate, (Banging my drum see the relevent threads on MN.) Do you really want or need them to be in school at such an early age, 3.5, they are barely out of nappies?

Desiderata · 09/02/2008 13:45

No, he'll start in September 2010, JV. He won't start school at 3.5 ... he'll be 4.5.

JeremyVile · 09/02/2008 14:11

Discoverlife - thats a great site, thank you. You're right, I probably wouldn't, ideally, want him in the school system so early and if it was viable for me I may have considered HE, but the fact is, by that point he will be in childcare/reception as I will be back to work by then. Keep banging that drum though!

Desi - See?? That's why I'm so confused!
Even if reception is not compulsory, I figure I'll put him in as it will be the school I want him to attend so seems pointless to have him in childcare instead of reception.
Or are you saying that he'll start reception in 2010?

Christ... I just don't get it.

I demand definitive answers, ^Goddammit

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TheDevilWearsPrimark · 09/02/2008 14:13

Some areas have non compulsory preschool, and they start in the term they turn three.

ecoworrier · 09/02/2008 15:00

No state school takes children into reception when they are 3. Children have to be at least 4 and in most areas now they start in the September following their 4th birthday, so they will be somewhere between 4 years and one day (!) if they have a late Aug birthday and 4 years 11 months+ if they have a Sep birthday.

Just to confuse matters, some areas still do 2 or 3 intakes a year, starting older children in Sep and the rest in Jan and/or Easter, so all children are then at least 4 and a half when they start.

Like someone said, some state schools have nurseries attached to them for 3 years old, but these are not compulsory, they are similar to playgroups and other pre-schools. However, if your school does have one, it is often to your advantage that your child goes to that nursery, sometimes they get priority for school places for example.

I think most local authorities require you to apply for a reception place in the October or November before the September following their 4th birthday. So in your case you would have to apply in autumn 2009. Letters offering the places then go out the following February, so February 2010 for you.

Like others have said, reception is not compulsory, but your child would then go straight into Year One, which could be harder to adjust to.

Schools vary as to when children go full time. At our school, the older children go mornings-only for a fortnight, then full time. Those born later in the year, say after Easter, usually go mornings-only until December, then full-time. However, other schools in the same town vary dramatically, some only do full-time, some do complicated arrangements of afternoons-only, then mornings-only, then mornings+lunch, then full-time! Each school really does decide for itself!

JeremyVile · 09/02/2008 15:38

OK - I think I actually get it!!

Reception, non-compulsary but probably a good idea. Reception year starts the Sep after 4th birthday, so for DS it'll be 2010 and I'll need to apply Nov 09. Full time, even in reception year is fairly quick (I wasn't ure if maybe the whole first year was P/T!)

Thank you ladies.

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elibelly · 09/02/2008 15:53

Depending on the age of your child, reception can be compulsory, just not for the whole year. You are obliged to have your child in an educational setting (be it home ed or school) from the term following your child's 5th birthday. So for a Jan birthday for example they would have to start after the Easter holidays following their 5th birthday so would have a term of reception. To be honest, if you're going to send them to school, they may as well start in the September of reception year so that they are new with everyone else, and are not at a disadvantage making friends etc.

Also worth checking the website or calling the school admissions department of your local authority (once you move) to check on application dates and procedures. This can vary enormously from council to council. The url is usually in the format of: www.yourcouncilname.gov.uk I live on the border of 3 local authorities in London, and each of them have different application deadlines.

Butkin · 09/02/2008 22:35

JV - may not be relevant but if you are thinking of sending your child to an independent (fee paying) school you may have to get their name down earlier. Our DD (5 at the end of this month) started Reception (called Kindergarten) in Sept 2007. However to get a place she needed to attend the nursery attached to the school and started in Sept 2006.

Gameboy · 10/02/2008 15:43

Even if Reception is not compulsory, you may find that there is not a place available if you plan to only start in Year 1, since if all the reception class children move up, there will be no space in the class. I don't think schools are under any obligation to hold a place?

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