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How pushsy is pushy and should I be pushy or not involved, where's the middle line? (sorry long one)

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clutteredup · 02/02/2008 12:51

My Ds is in Yr2 and will be doing SATs next term . He is extremely able, reads at a high level, has an enthusiasm for numbers and solving things and loves science. His writing is terrible but his language and story telling skills are good but he won't get it dowm on paper as he hates writing, it takes him forever and by the time he's written one sentence the story has been and gone and he's fed up. I've been told by his teacher he will probably get a level 3 for maths and I'm presuming his reading level is such that he'll get a level 3 for that too. Thing is should i be satisfied with that or, as he is a bright child start 'training' him for the SATs now so he gets level 3's accross the board. He's in a good school which I'm really pleased with, I am a primary trained teacher myself but I've mainly taught older ones, so I could teach him everytihng he needs to know , and more. Problem is I don't want to put him off by being pushy, so of course I am now worried I'm not being pushy enough. If he's interested in something he'll apply himself, if not he won't bother, if i push he'll give up.
Any opinions??

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juuule · 02/02/2008 12:56

He sounds as though he is doing really well. I think you don't need to be doing anything more than you have been doing up to this point. If he is enthusiastic about things then he will do well. As for the writing, that will come with time.

needmorecoffee · 02/02/2008 12:58

I thought sats were just maths and english?
I wouldn't push him. Poor lad is 6, SATS means bugger all and when he's 18 no-one will give a fart what level he got. But any stress he experiences now may live on.
Plus, whatever he gets they ignore it all for Y3. My daughter was given Y6 SATS in Y2 as she was so able and beat most of the 11 yo's (and this was despiteme instraucting the stupid school that she was not to sit the SATS) yet in Y3 she was still doing dot to dots out of boredom.

LIZS · 02/02/2008 12:59

Why is it so important to you to get the writing one to a 3 when he probably hasn't yet developed the motor skills or motivation , like many boys his age. Since these are really just internal assessments is it that crucial? They will practise someof the elements in class between now and the date. We all want our kids to do their best but it seems rather early, imho, to apply the pressure.

clutteredup · 02/02/2008 13:11

It doesn't matter to me really, I can see he's quite happy at school which is more important to me at the moment. To be honest he's done most of it all on his own. If he asks me something I'll do stuff with him but Iv'e always tried not to get too involved as he's very like I was and if my Dad looked to me if he was getting involved I'd stop doing schoolwork - I know I was a bit difficult as a child .
I suppose I was looking for reassurance that I can just sit back and let him get on with it and don't need to have fights after school about doing writing practice, TBH I even wimped out and wrote his thank you letters this year because i couldn't face the trauma.

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Ubergeekian · 02/02/2008 15:35

SATS results don't matter in the least to you or him, just to the school. If they want him to achieve a higher level, they should do something about it. Don't get them guilt-trip you into doing their work for them.

clutteredup · 02/02/2008 16:16

The teacher had mentioned writing a sentence everyday but have had trouble with writing a single word. I am in general with schoolwork quite a hands off mother, I have always read with him when he has wanted to and let him read to himself when he has wanted to and it seems to have worked. Just a bit worried when he gets older and has homework its going to be a bitof a struggle, but then again I'll try to leave that till it happens I know there are other mums in his class who are quite 'involved' with their children's work, I know its not a competetion, but just wanted to feel better about the total hands off approach.

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AbbeyA · 02/02/2008 22:24

Pushing him will only be counter productive, he will do it in his own time. The SATs,as Ubergeekian says, don't matter in the least to you or him-they only matter to the school.

Madsometimes · 04/02/2008 10:31

I have a daughter in Y3, and last year most of her class dropped a grade in their writing task. To get a level 3 in writing, teachers are looking for clear sentence construction, reasonable spelling, punctuation and use of paragraphs. I do not think this is the kind of thing that can be tutored in a short space of time. My daughter got a 2b in writing which I was very pleased with despite her other papers being higher.

It is true that KS1 SATS are not important. To me, their only benefit is getting children used to test conditions rather than facing them for the first time at 10 or 11.

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