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Not sure how to help dd

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Nikii83 · 02/04/2022 21:52

Had a fantastic parents evening for my dd she is greater depth in all areas but school wanted to bring to my attention that my dd uses a whole palm grasp still when holding a pencil. She does the same when she colours and it’s still messy. Her handwriting is joined up but messy.

Since being told I have notice she struggled to open a door by the handle and when she walk her feet point Inwards. I’m just wondering who I should make aware of concerns gp or do you still go to a health visitor

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Nikii83 · 02/04/2022 21:57

I will give them a go thank you.

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GraciousPiglet · 02/04/2022 22:03

How old is she? If she's 4 and in reception still, I wouldn't worry to much at all. If she's older, have a think about the following?

Does she have any other physical issues at all, even just minor? Does she fall over or seem clumsy? How was she with her milestones?

Nikii83 · 02/04/2022 22:13

She will be 8 in a few weeks, she used to fall over her feet when she was younger but not so much now. She hit all her milestones at her reviews when younger. She did get referred for her feet pointing in when she walked when she was 5 but they thought she had increased mobility but would probably grow out of it but this doesn’t look like it has happened

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SouthLondonMommy · 02/04/2022 22:34

I'd tried to get referred to an occupational therapist via your GPbased on what you've said.

GraciousPiglet · 02/04/2022 22:50

Yep I was going to suggest an OT too. Go private if you can afford it and you'll get seen nice and quickly.

It is possible she is hypermobile/flexible. A good OT will be worth it's weight in gold. We had my son diagnoses with dyspraxia and school were busy saying he was fine just had bad handwriting... Turns out there was a bit more to it!

Nikii83 · 02/04/2022 23:09

Thank you this is why I wondered who to speak to as the teacher made me aware of it and said it might be brought up as more of an issue later but I would rather we start to help her now not later

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Newnamemsz · 03/04/2022 06:06

Definitely ask your GP for a referral to a specialist paediatric occupational therapist.
In the meantime these activities can help

Fine Motor Skills
Things to remember:
Upright working surfaces promote fine motor skills. Examples of these are: vertical
chalkboards; easels for painting; flannel boards; lite bright; magnet boards (or
fridge); windows and mirrors; white boards, etc. Children can also make sticker
pictures; do rubber ink-stamping; use reuseable stickers to make pictures; complete
puzzles with thick knobs; use magna-doodle and etch-a-sketch as well. The benefits
for these include: having the child's wrist positioned to develop good thumb
movements; they help develop good fine motor muscles; the child is using the arm
and shoulder muscles.
Fine Motor Activities
Moulding and rolling play dough into balls - using the palms of the
hands facing each other and with fingers curled slightly towards the palm.
Rolling play dough into tiny balls (peas) using only the finger tips.
Using pegs or toothpicks to make designs in play dough.
Cutting play dough with a plastic knife or with a pizza wheel by holding
the implement in a diagonal volar grasp.
Tearing newspaper into strips and then crumpling them into balls. Use
to stuff scarecrow or other art creation.
Scrunching up 1 sheet of newspaper in one hand. This is a super
strength builder.
Using a plant sprayer to spray plants, (indoors, outdoors) to spray snow
(mix food colouring with water so that the snow can be painted), or melt
"monsters". (Draw monster pictures with markers and the colours will run
when sprayed.)

Picking up objects using large tweezers such as those found in the
"Bedbugs" game. This can be adapted by picking up Cheerios, small cubes,
small marshmallows, pennies, etc., in counting games.
Shaking dice by cupping the hands together, forming an empty air space
between the palms.
Using small-sized screwdrivers like those found in an erector set.
Lacing and sewing activities such as stringing beads, Cheerios,
macaroni, etc.
Using eye droppers to "pick up" coloured water for colour mixing or
to make artistic designs on paper.
Rolling small balls out of tissue paper, then gluing the balls onto
construction paper to form pictures or designs.
Turning over cards, coins, checkers, or buttons, without bringing them to
the edge of the table.
Making pictures using stickers or self-sticking paper reinforcements.
Playing games with the "puppet fingers" -the thumb, index, and middle
fingers. At circle time have each child's puppet fingers tell about what
happened over the weekend, or use them in songs and finger plays.
Place a variety of forms (eg. blocks, felt, paper, string, yarn, cereal,
cotton) on outlines
Match shapes, colour, or pictures to a page and paste them within the
outlines

Self-Care Skills
Buttoning
Lacing
Tying
Fastening Snaps
Zipping
Carrying
Using a screwdriver
Locking and unlocking a door
Winding a clock
Opening and closing jars
Rolling out dough or other simple cooking activities
Washing plastic dishes
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Sweeping the floor
Dressing
Scissor Activities
When scissors are held correctly, and when they fit a child's hand well, cutting
activities will exercise the very same muscles which are needed to manipulate a pencil
in a mature tripod grasp. The correct scissor position is with the thumb and middle
finger in the handles of the scissors, the index finger on the outside of the handle to
stabilize, with fingers four and five curled into the palm.
Cutting junk mail, particularly the kind of paper used in magazine
subscription cards.
Making fringe on the edge of a piece of construction paper.
Cutting play dough or clay with scissors.
Cutting straws or shredded paper.
Cutting
Use a thick black line to guide cutting the following:
A fringe from a piece of paper
Cut off corners of a piece of paper
Cut along curved lines
Cut lines with a variety of angles
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Cut figures with curves and angles
Sensory Activities
The following activities ought to be done frequently to increase postural muscle
strength and endurance. These activities also strengthen the child's awareness of
his/her hands.
Wheelbarrow walking, crab walking
Clapping games (loud/quiet, on knees together, etc.)
Catching (clapping) bubbles between hands
Pulling off pieces of thera-putty with individual fingers and thumb
Drawing in a tactile medium such as wet sand, salt, rice, or "goop".
Make "goop" by adding water to cornstarch until you have a mixture similar
in consistency to toothpaste. The "drag" of this mixture provides feedback to
the muscle and joint receptors, thus facilitating visual motor control.
Picking out small objects like pegs, beads, coins, etc., from a tray of salt,
sand, rice, or putty. Try it with eyes closed too. This helps develop sensory
awareness in the hands.
Midline Crossing
Establishment of hand dominance is still developing at this point. The following
activities will facilitate midline crossing:
Encourage reaching across the body for materials with each hand. It
may be necessary to engage the other hand in an activity to prevent
switching hands at midline.

Refrain specifically from discouraging a child from using the left hand
for any activity. Allow for the natural development of hand dominance by
presenting activities at midline, and allowing the child to choose freely.
Start making the child aware of the left and right sides of his body
through spontaneous comments like, "kick the ball with your right leg." Play
imitation posture games like "Simon Says" with across the body movements.
When painting at easel, encourage the child to paint a continuous line
across the entire paper- also from diagonal to diagonal.

Newuser82 · 03/04/2022 06:35

Definitely try getting an appointment with an occupational therapist. I'm surprised the school have waited until now to flag this up.

Nikii83 · 03/04/2022 19:26

@Newuser82

Definitely try getting an appointment with an occupational therapist. I'm surprised the school have waited until now to flag this up.
I was surprised to that this is the first time they have mentioned it as she is now in year 3 (year 4) in September I will try some of the activities above thank you
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HSHorror · 03/04/2022 22:53

Does she have any traits of asd?

Ericaequites · 04/04/2022 05:41

Did she crawl on hands and knees or scoot about on her bum? The latter indicates dyspraxia or dyslexia.

autienotnaughty · 04/04/2022 06:02

School brought in ot for my son. They gave us lots of exercises to do at home and at school

Nikii83 · 04/04/2022 20:41

She didn’t really crawl or scoot she seemed to just get up and walk one day. Hit all her milestones in the red book.

She has some social anxiety, she is painfullly shy with new people and she has had meltdowns for example when she doesn’t want to do something she seems extra afraid of it for example Lapland U.K. she was terrified in the first experience as it was noisy with lots of people.

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Swimbikerunmummy · 04/04/2022 20:47

My son is similar with regards to handwriting. Was referred by school for OT in year 2 but still waiting to be seen nearly 18 months later. His gross motor skills were all ahead of schedule, walked at 9 months, been riding a bike since age 4 etc, it’s just fine motor skills that are impacted.

tpmumtobe · 04/04/2022 21:18

DS was diagnosed with dyspraxia in Yr4. His only notable symptom at the time was poor handwriting but it became apparent very quickly that there was a pile ofother stuff going on too. Social anxiety also very common with dyapraxia. Deffo worth pushing for an OT referral. DS now in secondary and doing very well with minimal but targetted support.

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