Any recently qualified Primary Teachers around?

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I’m going round and round in circles.

Did you do a degree in Primary Education studies, was it a 2 year or a 3 year degree?

Did it include QTS or did you do that course after your degree, there appears to be no funding for QTS unless it’s part of the degree?

My daughter has applied for various Universities with the School career advisor and they vary so much, daughter doesn’t know which way to now go? Argh 😣

Oh and thank you xx

I did a degree with QTS, it was 4 years but they now tend to be 3 years. If she is doing an education degree without QTS she would need to do a PGCE or equivalent after.

Feel free to PM the courses

Primary education with QTS is a 3 year course.

She can do a non-education degree for 3 years and follow it with a 1 year PCGE

Thank you for this, my dd (15) is considering becoming a primary school teacher and we have been quite confused about the courses.

I am in my 3rd year of teaching and did a history degree and then a pgce

I can’t imagine you’ll find a 2 year degree that will give QTS

I would highly recommend doing a ‘normal’ subject degree then a PGCE or SCITT rather than her limiting herself to primary education at a young age.

I did a degree in early childhood and then a one year schools direct course (all based in school with one day training each week).

It’s all so confusing and looking at the responses lots of different routes. @riverpebbles it’s really tricky!

Thank you for the responses, daughter has been offered places at Portsmouth and Northampton with QTS. Coventry (London) 3 year with no QTS, UWE Bristol 3 year and no QTS and Anglian Ruskin have emailed her asking her to consider the accelerated 2 year degree, with assistance to apply for a QTS/PGCE post graduation instead of the 3 year and as far as I can see, no QTS.
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I didn’t have a say in these choices, she was guided by the School careers office and made the final choices herself.

Predicted A grades in English Language and Sociology and Btech D in Health and Social Care.

She originally wanted to become a nurse and has a change of plan.

She doesn’t know which option is best, I’ve suggested the 3 year with QTS.

The 2 year is attractive because the reduced debt and Anglian Ruskin are really selling it, but the degree seems light on content?

She wants to reach 5-11 and English is her strongest subject.

Please don't let her do a straight teaching degree. Teaching is not the job people expect anymore and sadly, every single teacher I know wants to leave due to
horrendous workload, pressure and constant changing goalposts. Doing an ordinary degree plus a PGCE gives her options if she decides it isn't for her which a huge proportion of new teachers do. Don't wish to put a downer but I bitterly regret not doing exactly that. I wanted to be a teacher forever but sadly, the job I used love has become completely intolerable and all my colleagues are as miserable and stressed as I am.

@MummyInTheNecropolis that sounds appealing after the 2 year because I understand she will start receiving a salary?

@LyndaLaHughes my aunt was a teacher for 30 years and has really tried to put her off, she said it’s not about the children anymore.

@twinkletoesimnot history is my passion, sadly she didn’t follow.

She won't have a life as a
Newly qualified teacher I'm afraid.
What also concerns me is that you have said she has changed her mind at the last minute. Unless teaching is something she really passionately wants to do, then I really wouldn't advise it at all. She really does need to go into this with her eyes wide open. I am so sorry to say that I would never recommend teaching to anyone anymore. Not how things are. They are awful if I'm brutally honest.

@Meandmini3

I would highly recommend doing a ‘normal’ subject degree then a PGCE or SCITT rather than her limiting herself to primary education at a young age.

Agree 100%

Do a 'normal' degree and then one year PGCE.

Or else you'll struggle to get into a management style job if all you have is teaching.

I absolutely loved my degree with QTS and would have hated doing the PGCE. Still teaching 15 years later. I would do it again but I think the PGCE is the most popular route

[quote FAQs]@MummyInTheNecropolis that sounds appealing after the 2 year because I understand she will start receiving a salary?[/quote]
A salary when doing a PGCE do you mean?

This may be possible, but not a certainty.

Why did she change her mind from nursing?

I echo everyone on here-teaching is a horrible job now, I wouldn’t recommend it to my worst enemy.

That’s ok, it’s not something I could do, I’m too impatient, yes I’m not sure it is her passion if I’m honest, she wanted to be a nurse for as long as I can remember, she did a couple of weeks work experience in a school and changed her mind. I tried to persuade her to consider English, she did well in English Language and Lit, she doesn’t have any other interest, she does really enjoy Health and Social Care subjects and the human interest/psychology side of things.

@Howshouldibehave Anglian Ruskin has said she can start earning whilst doing the QTS?

She really bonded with the children during work experience and came home everyday with little pictures and leaves and various things from the children and received high praise feedback re her ability and flare with the children, she was absolutely, I can only describe as buzzing with energy each day I picked her up.

[quote FAQs]@MummyInTheNecropolis that sounds appealing after the 2 year because I understand she will start receiving a salary?[/quote]
Unfortunately this is no longer usually the case due to funding cuts. Luckily mine was funded by my school as I had already worked there for a couple of years as a TA, they also paid me a small scholarship but this is rare.

If she has a rapport with children and wanted to go into nursing, I'd probably go into paediatric nursing over teaching.

I had a similar rapport with children, but being a teacher broke me. I won't go back to it, and wouldn't recommend it. I did the 3 year unrelated degree followed by PGCE route, around a decade ago. The last time I worked in a classroom was around 5 years ago. From what I've heard, it's only gotten worse since I left the profession.