Learning times tables

[purpleme12]

My child needs to practice her times tables
This TT rockstar thing is no good cos she gets some wrong cos she just guesses cos she wants to do it fast like you're supposed to then cos she gets them wrong she gets really angry (like she does at many things at the minute but by the by)
Any tips on learning times tables to help her

Perhaps I should have a look at a CD

Key is repetition, over and over again. We use to one set a week, say the 2’s and every morning as we went upstairs to brush teeth I would test on every step. Same on way down . It became quite a fun game. Some weeks we’d double back up the easier ones like 2’s or 5’s or spend 2 weeks on them every day. My ds could never get the 7’s so we’d spend every step doing the same one and did the 7’s every other week.
Some sets are easy 2,5,10,11 for example.
Teach the hand trick with the 9’s

We have a times table poster at top of stairs for DS almost 4 who is obsessed with numbers but am hoping it'll help Y2 DD also!

Look at the Montessori way. It's very sensorial which is better for many children than learning to repeat.

I'm trying to teach her the 11s cos to me they're easy
Not sure she's got what I'm saying yet though

What's the hand trick with the 9s?

@purpleme12

I'm trying to teach her the 11s cos to me they're easy Not sure she's got what I'm saying yet though

What's the hand trick with the 9s?

Not sure whether it’s the same nowadays, but when my dc’s were at school, they leant the tables 7, 14, 21, 28 etc. They had no concept that 7= 1x7, 14 = 2x7 etc. it’s worth teaching them the whole equation.

My dd is struggling so just joining for some ideas

@WhiteJellycat

My dd is struggling so just joining for some ideas

How old is yours?

Before bed tonight she said why do I need help with my times tables and everyone else can do it 😟

SqueeblesTT is good because it’s not timed and actually has a training mode. My dd got on a lot better with that when she wasn’t so good at the tables as she got stressed with the times modes.

@Riverlee

Not sure whether it’s the same nowadays, but when my dc’s were at school, they leant the tables 7, 14, 21, 28 etc. They had no concept that 7= 1x7, 14 = 2x7 etc. it’s worth teaching them the whole equation.

Yes, this has changed

They also learn that 4x7=28, 28/4=7 28/7=4 and there are physical and pictorial representations of what the calculations actually mean.

A teacher once suggested that we pick a single line a day e.g. 7x8, and keep asking this in different formats (7 x 8, 8 x 7, 56/7 etc…) It definitely helped with the trickier ones. We’d just shout it out in the car, at tea, swimming, anywhere really.

However they learn, it's so important they do. It makes other maths concepts and calculations so much easier. Filling in charts, timestables.Co.Uk, singing, learning them when relaxed. Learning about the patterns, e.g the 9 thing. That 5x always has a 5 or 0 on the end. Try and make it fun and not scary...so many people are so fearful of maths.

I like timetables.co.uk

Dd's class really enjoyed some of the songs. There was an 8 times table cover of an adele song! I'll try and find it
On TTR they all seem focused on what outfit they have but it seems to work. They are tested by speed I presume that's a government thing not a school thing. I couldn't do it in primary and would struggle now. I just panic!

Here you are @purpleme12

The 6s are taylor swift shake it off

Yes we found the Adele song earlier! 🤣
She did quite like that. Yet to see if it will work but we'll see
Not listened to the Taylor Swift one yet will have to have a look

It will be you that gets it in your head !!
I think its improved my times table knowlege

I'm in my 60's and learned my tables in class all together as a chant. It was no big deal. Just something we did every day at school like reading. By the Time we were in the juniors (yr 3) we all could recite tables up to 12. Mum and dad would fire random 7 x 8 etc tables at us at home and my brothers and I were quite competitive about it.
My children were taught differently and really struggled. I did ask their teacher about it and she said it was because the children wouldn't understand what it meant just by chanting. I guess she was right because I didn't understand aged 5 but did as I got older. I might add I'm absolutely useless at maths and failed my maths gce.....but still know my tables!

Anyone have any recommendations for which CD to buy for catchy times to remember?

@baggies

I'm in my 60's and learned my tables in class all together as a chant. It was no big deal. Just something we did every day at school like reading. By the Time we were in the juniors (yr 3) we all could recite tables up to 12. Mum and dad would fire random 7 x 8 etc tables at us at home and my brothers and I were quite competitive about it. My children were taught differently and really struggled. I did ask their teacher about it and she said it was because the children wouldn't understand what it meant just by chanting. I guess she was right because I didn't understand aged 5 but did as I got older. I might add I'm absolutely useless at maths and failed my maths gce.....but still know my tables!

I chant it while counting on my fingers, so the chanting is the 'answer' and the fingers is the 'multiplied by.' You can do it walking along, to a beat to help, so they're learned physically too.

www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09QFKHBPN?ref_=pe_3052080_397514860&tag=mumsnetforu03-21

I like these style of books. So they learn certain sets at a time.

This is another idea
You could use pictures to teach times tables. Print out a number square and test her. Years ago one of my mom's friends used those times tables books you could find but not sure if they are still selling now.

We used flash cards at home and did each one in order, once they knew one set ie 2s in order I shuffled them. If they get them right I put them to the back of the deck if they got it wrong I would file in behind the next card. ie if they got 7x8s wrong, the next card would be say 3x8s then 7x8s, then 9x8s sthen 7x8s again. But we would play physical games of driving a toy car to the right answer or laying them on the floor and they hop to the right one.

They do songs in class with YouTube videos. Some of the songs are dire

It isn't about working them out each time but just knowing what comes next. When we were in school we learned songs in other languages, my own children learned a song in French about a windmill spinning too quickly. They don't understand the language just what sounds come next. It is the same with times tables. It is almost learning by rote.

By the end of year 4 they have to be able to do it all plus the inverse with I believe a 5 second recall. Times tables are so important. In class the quicker they can work out answers to multiplication the quicker they move onto the challenges and therefore they do more questions which tests their ability. The slower they are the less questions they do and the less practise they have which can impact them.

This goes for adding and subtraction too. Get children to count coins adding as they go or start with 7 and add 5 each time to get 12, 17 etc.

There’s a book called times fables - it is excellent, it doesn’t do 2s or 5s but each number has a character and there is a small story with the numbers and the answer - it’s changed our life - now if they get stuck I can say what’s the story - where did Dr Sven go on holiday and for how long and they get it.