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Anyone else’s Year 2 got no stamina?

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TiredChild · 13/01/2022 16:52

She’s 6, not 7 until end of July so that might be why.

But it’s like we’re in the first term of Reception. She’s so grumpy after school, refuses to eat, often asks to go to bed at 5.15pm, and is usually asleep pretty quickly. Sleeps until 6.30pm.

Just had parents evening for this term and her teachers said she’s so exhausted by 2pm, her speech regresses (she didn’t say a word until she was 3). She did have covid over Christmas Holidays but she was the same last term before she had covid as well.

Everyone says by Year 2 the time after school is the best, and yet mines still sleeping like she’s in Reception. She's fine in holidays and often stays up until a more normal time (7.30ish)

Basically is anyone elses year 2 the same? Or should I be worried and taking her to the GP?

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massiveblob · 17/01/2022 20:07

It's a very long day. I think the suggestion that OP mum goes to her house is a good one. Then the child can sleep later, maybe go to breakfast club later and then enjoy some afterschool time.
It's not necessarily a criticism it's an observation. No one on know would get an exhausted child up at 5.45 for a holiday club. They are normally tired at half terms etc so need a big of time to catch up sleep

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TiredChild · 17/01/2022 20:07

@massiveblob

Is her school miles away? Even going to breakfast club for 7.45am mine would only get up at 7. They don't go any more as I start later now & they just walk to school. Her day just sounds too long for her. Lots of her class mates will be getting up more like 7.30/8am As for getting up at 5.45 for holiday club- that's unimaginable to me. We use local ones within a 10-20min drive.

@massiveblob Morning club don't feed them unless I pay extra and it#s too expensive so I feed her before we go hence the 6.30am wake up. It's half a miles walk but DDs very slow so can take us 30 minutes to walk it and she's in club for 7.30am, so leave the house at 7am. Days she's with my mum I drop her at 7.20am, and mum walks her 1 mile to school.

I drive but don't own my own car so we walk everywhere. Holiday club is a mile and a halves walk away, this is the closest one so I give up 1.5 hours to walk it. It's next to the train station I use though so she starts there at 8am. So we leave about 6.30am.

She's generally pretty happy, but dawdles along. She doesn't complain about the walk.

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stuntbubbles · 17/01/2022 20:12

What are the roads like? Could you get one of those hippie parent bikes with the child carrier on them (no idea what they’re called) second-hand, so she doesn’t have to do the early morning walk – it would save on her energy early in the day so she has more later. Appreciate it’s an upfront cost but eBay, gumtree, etc might have a bargain.

pastapestoparmesan · 17/01/2022 20:16

1 mile per hour is a crazily slow walking pace. Would a scooter help?

ScalesAreOff · 17/01/2022 20:24

If it's possible to

1.get her into bed by 6:30,

Make sure she has a hearty supper.

...see how you get on. I noticed similar behaviour with my younger one and then worked out that because she got more sleep over the holidays, she was attentive.

Sending 🤗. It can't be easy doing this on your own. You're doing an amazing job👏🏽👏🏽.

massiveblob · 17/01/2022 20:28

Her blood sugar may be too low by 3.30 due to eating so early. Can she take her own porridge or cereal in a flask? Or Soreen or similar?
She's eating before 7 then at maybe 12noon? That's over 5 hours. I'd be flagging on that as a grown up.

massiveblob · 17/01/2022 20:29

Is second the scooter too. Pack her a breakfast or snack to eat at breakfast club.

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TiredChild · 17/01/2022 20:33

@massiveblob

Her blood sugar may be too low by 3.30 due to eating so early. Can she take her own porridge or cereal in a flask? Or Soreen or similar? She's eating before 7 then at maybe 12noon? That's over 5 hours. I'd be flagging on that as a grown up.

@massiveblob She eats at 10am, usually a piece of fruit and some milk.

Then she has school dinners, she insists, I'd rather she had pack ups but she wants dinners. That varies time depending on the day as each year group apart from Reception goes in first one day a week, then they move to 2nd then 3rd etc.

She then has a snack at 3,30pm on the way home, and we eat again at 4.30-5pm if I can keep her awake, sometimes she falls asleep on the sofa before I serve it up.

She's not allowed to take in her own snacks for breakfast club, you either pay for their food or eat at home, same with after school. Due to the nut risk apparently.

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Barksmum12 · 17/01/2022 20:41

My year 2 doesn't have great stamina. There is no way she would handle that walk and a school day.

Scooter/cycle to school? Could you pay for food one day a week for a later start? Is there no school bus?

MoltenLasagne · 17/01/2022 20:42

Could you get a bike with a pannier seat? It would save the energy of her walking plus be a lot faster so you could leave later.

EmmaH2022 · 17/01/2022 20:43

Again ready for a flaming
For a child already tired, that's a lot of walking especially to holiday club

Re breakfast club, could you take a packed breakfast that she can eat outside before going in? Then she could maybe get up a little later too?

massiveblob · 17/01/2022 20:57

Loads at our big primary walk 0.5-1 miles before school. It split site so loads walk a fair distance. But breakfast club is cheap enough so kids eat when they get there if using it. One price. I'm surprised it's much more to eat there tbh. Kinda defeats the object for me.

massiveblob · 17/01/2022 20:58

Op is there a childminder you could use? She could chill out, eat there and go straight to school?

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TiredChild · 17/01/2022 21:00

@massiveblob

Op is there a childminder you could use? She could chill out, eat there and go straight to school?

@massiveblob All the CMs that go to our school live a similar distance away to me and walk, so kind of defeats the point.

Can't really afford a bike. She can' us a scooter, but is slower on it than she is walking, she can't seem to co-ordinate herself for it.

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TiredChild · 17/01/2022 21:01

@massiveblob

@massiveblob It's £5 for 7.30am-9.05am without breakfast, it's £10.50 for breakfast, it#s a huge price jump. No idea why because school dinners are only £2.20 a day.

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Quornflakegirl · 17/01/2022 21:05

My dtwins were always big sleepers and still are. In reception they were asleep by 6pm. In year 2 they struggled to stay awake until 7 and even now at 9, they are fast asleep before 8pm and on weekends won’t wake before 8:30am.

Op, some children need a a lot of sleep but I would chat to a gp just it be sure.

massiveblob · 17/01/2022 21:14

£5.50 is ridiculous for a bit of breakfast. £10.50 is huge. In our area breakfast clubs are £3-5 in breakfast.
I suggested a CM as she could eat there so it would be later and chill out with TV etc before school instead of sensory overload of 90 min of breakfast club

ADialgaAteMyDog · 17/01/2022 21:18

Gosh, totally opposite problem with my year 2, only sleeps 9 hours a nightx nightmare!
I would definitely get her checked by GP. If you have a scooter for her, I'd try towing her on it (use dressing gown belt or something?) and see if that's a) quicker and b) less tiring for her. It's so shit it's cold and rainy at the moment but if there was a place you could stop and have a snack before heading home that might help her a bit, bit if a sit down?

TheYearOfSmallThings · 17/01/2022 22:33

I'm surprised it's much more to eat there tbh. Kinda defeats the object for me.

I agree! And the price is very high too. I've never heard of a breakfast club that charges so much. Really tough on a working parent.

BlankTimes · 17/01/2022 23:31

OP ask for a referral to a Paediatric Occupational Therapist for your daughter. It's possible she has hypermobile joints and if so, that could explain at least some of her slow walking speed and tiredness.

TizerorFizz · 17/01/2022 23:45

So where do you work? How do you get to work? Do you have to walk back home? Can any parent offer a lift? I live rurally and few walked to school from the villages. Roads are unsafe for a start.

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TiredChild · 18/01/2022 12:06

@TizerorFizz

So where do you work? How do you get to work? Do you have to walk back home? Can any parent offer a lift? I live rurally and few walked to school from the villages. Roads are unsafe for a start.

@TizerorFizz I work in a city, get the train to work, then walk from station to school to get DD.

It's not rural but not urban either, most parents walk to school as they live within half a mile or so of the school. It has a tiny catchment although not oversibscribed, the other two schools in the area are oversubscribed though.

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TizerorFizz · 18/01/2022 13:09

I can see it’s really very time consuming without a car. Difficult for a single parent too. I don’t really see how you can change anything if you need to work and it’s not local. However I think for DD, the length if day is the issue and meal times being slightly skewed as a result. I always fed my DDs when I collected them from school. Cheese, fruit, pasta salad etc. They had lunch very early and by 3.30 they needed food. Not sure what more help anyone can be really. The days are long and you don’t have help.

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