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Confused about schools and church

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Pastnowfuture · 30/10/2021 23:26

My son is only 18 months but a few people have asked me what school I would like to send him to. When I responded to this question today with my usual answer 'name of local non-religious school' I was informed that I'm unlikely to get him in as it's rated outstanding and there is a big housing estate right next to it where people buy to secure a place. It turns out this person is the assistant head there. She also told me that last year over half the places were taken by siblings.

The only other options within 25 minute walking distance are 1 Catholic school (outstanding) and 2 C of E schools (good), all of which a quick internet search tells me are oversubscribed. The online criteria says families regularly attending church for 2 years before applying will be prioritised.

I'm now worried we won't get a place at any and will have to take the bus to school in a different town. I had no idea this was a thing. We just went to the closest school growing up. It may sound silly but I'm worried about how I will get to work on time and the cost of the busses, plus how tired my little boy will be with the extra travelling time (about 40 minutes x 2).

I feel like my only option is to start going to church but it feels morally wrong. I was brought up Catholic but have no intention of returning to the Christian faith. Am I missing something? Is this common?

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TizerorFizz · 31/10/2021 21:46

Well I’m aware of that but surprised at the non catholic LAC children at no 5.

prh47bridge · 31/10/2021 21:57

@TizerorFizz

Well I’m aware of that but surprised at the non catholic LAC children at no 5.
I don't know of any CofE school that does this but it seems almost universal at RC schools - non-Catholic LAC are only admitted if there are places after all Catholics have been admitted.
TizerorFizz · 31/10/2021 22:21

@prh47bridge
I find it very surprising that there is a religious divide even when applied to the LAC category! There is no medical category at all. Feels exclusive and uncaring to me. This school does admit to no 9 on the list. 0.591 mile. Around this school there are other choices within reach but quite a walk. I’d like to know how they determine any other Cristian Religion. Yet more church attendance?

TizerorFizz · 31/10/2021 22:31

There are also two inspection reports. The Catholic one comments on all sorts of outcomes and character of the school but the headline of the report says it’s an RE inspection. It clearly is not. It’s an advertisement. Says the school is outstanding and aiming to be the best in the LA. Obviously by being selective. Ofsted says it’s good. Leads me to think it’s time there was one inspection regime! How are parents supposed to view this blatant misinformation?

TizerorFizz · 01/11/2021 00:01

I’ve gone wildly off topic! Apologies.

buntywindermere · 01/11/2021 00:27

@TizerorFizz

There are also two inspection reports. The Catholic one comments on all sorts of outcomes and character of the school but the headline of the report says it’s an RE inspection. It clearly is not. It’s an advertisement. Says the school is outstanding and aiming to be the best in the LA. Obviously by being selective. Ofsted says it’s good. Leads me to think it’s time there was one inspection regime! How are parents supposed to view this blatant misinformation?
Hi, Catholic schools in England and Wales are subject to a Section 48 Report. The S48 looks at the Catholic character of the school and the RE teaching provision. Not sure what the part about aiming to be the best in the LA is about as I've never seen anything like that in a report before (Catholic RE teacher) but it is possible to be an "outstanding Catholic school" and only a "good" OFSTED rated school at the same time. Having both inspections is good as it keeps an additional focus on maintaining the ethos of the school, and many, many do value the faith schools for the Christian setting.

In our LA the CofE schools have to prove attendance, whereas Catholics just need the baptism certificate. There's absolutely no expectation to make First Holy Communion, and isn't a requirement to get into feeder Catholic secondary. It's worth looking at this before you discard the faith school options. I don't think faith schools are quite the brainwashing centres some think they are 🤣 - it's largely linking the British Values teachings of respect/tolerance with the New Testament accounts of what Jesus did and how he treated people, with a couple of gyms thrown in for good measure. The time for prayer is an opportunity for them to be quiet and reflect/practice gratitude.

Sorry that ended up longer than intended! Basically, it's worth checking out the admissions criteria!!

buntywindermere · 01/11/2021 00:28

Hymns - not gyms!!!!

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