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Really disruptive new pupil has joined

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iwanttobeonleave · 19/10/2021 13:12

I'm looking for advice.
Small country Prep school, class of 9, year 5's, all very well engaged and behaved children. They've been together for years so a very tight group.

In sweeps a whirlwind of a child on a 'trial' incredibly disruptive, tantrums, violent towards others and majorly upsetting the peace. Others mentioned that she must have SEN. Whole class has been marked down once because of her, which has never happened before. My child was assaulted (kicked in the privates) etc.

I know it's not my place to say who does and doesn't join the school, but mine isn't the only one to have been in tears due to this individual.

I'm feeling cross that their education is being disrupted again- just when things were settling down.

Should I raise a concern with the teacher?

OP posts:
TizerorFizz · 23/10/2021 18:42

SEN funding doesn’t work like that! If this trial doesn’t work it’s not going to persuade the LA of anything. Other than the parents were denying there is SEN. With behaviour issues, state is the best place to get help. Private schools are not required to take special needs children if they cannot meet their needs. State schools have less wriggle room.

Marcipex · 23/10/2021 19:04

Actually I am jealous for my grandchild who is in a class of 32 with six children like this.

TizerorFizz · 23/10/2021 19:11

Exactly. These children are in state schools.

Plotato · 23/10/2021 19:14

if the child can't be managed in a class of 9 there really is something more wrong with the school than the child.

Rubbish - some children need 1:1 support and in these situations it often doesn't matter whether you're teaching said child and 5 others or said child and 50 others - said child needs your full attention so as soon as you attend to others there are issues.

OnceuponaRainbow18 · 23/10/2021 20:10

@Plotato

Oh come on that’s rubbish! 1 child out of 9 is 100 times easier than 1/50

SammyScrounge · 23/10/2021 20:36

@TizerorFizz

SEN funding doesn’t work like that! If this trial doesn’t work it’s not going to persuade the LA of anything. Other than the parents were denying there is SEN. With behaviour issues, state is the best place to get help. Private schools are not required to take special needs children if they cannot meet their needs. State schools have less wriggle room.
State schools are not dumping grounds for difficult children. A state school may have a large Learning Support department to deal with behavioural and/or learning difficulties. Children can be given individual tuition or just be removed from classroom stress for a while . In that respect we do well by problematic children
Plotato · 23/10/2021 20:39

[quote OnceuponaRainbow18]@Plotato

Oh come on that’s rubbish! 1 child out of 9 is 100 times easier than 1/50[/quote]
Well I disagree. I'm a SENCO and that's my experience. Some children require near enough 100% of your attention, meaning everyone else gets ignored. The amount of teacher attention those children are getting is still basically nil whether there are 5 of them or 50.

TizerorFizz · 23/10/2021 22:35

State schools have nearly all children who are being assessed for behavioural difficulties. Very few highly disruptive children are in prep schools. They never give 1:1. Who’s going to pay for it? Very few behaviour EHCP children in prep schools. In special provision - yes. At £50,000 a year and the state pays.

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