Primary school teacher that should. is this normal?

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DS (aged 5) in year 1. he started at this school in September and has been doing very well. Parent/teacher meeting went fine. The teacher seems to be very sweet and kind. I have noticed though that some of the other Mum have make remarks that imply that she is moody and sometimes unaproachable, stuff like 'oh Miss ---- has her dont bother me face on this morning'.

I had heard DS mention that she shouted at such and such today for being naughty. I did not take too much notice at first but now DS is telling me everyday that she Shouts! I have asked DS if she shouts at him but he says no "cause I'm not naughty" .

Shouting really bothers DS he does not like it. Yesterday he was shouted at and insists that he did not do anything wrong. apparently the boy next to him was making a silly noise and she shouted at DS to stop it.

should I be concerned that she shouts (a lot) or is shouting tolerated as a way to control a class ?

oh Cr p! I screwed up the title.

Primary school teacher that SHOUTS, not Should!

LOL.

So teachers aren't allowed to shout any more.

Good job I left the profession then.

My dd doesn't like people who shout, and she had a shouty teacher last year. But in a way I think it taught her some useful lessons about dealing with difficult people, so overall not a bad thing

ok, so how much shouting is allowed?

Ahhh - its like 'the little engine that could'

Not very helpful I'm afrid.
This happened to my DS in his first year at school and it freaked him out because I rarely shout at him. I'm not super myum I just do the 'getting down to his level and speaking menacingly softly' thing.
I didn't know it was happening until afterwards so not sure what i would do but FWIW my DS is now 14 and he actually soon got used to it and even quite missed her when he left. It was as if he just had to adjust to her shitometer and recoginise that shouting didn't actually represent a more sinister threat - it was just what she did.

i bet it's almost impossible to run a class without shouting

DS's teacher is known to be shouty and he was quite apprehensive about going into her class. But now he is secure that she only shouts at those who are being errant he has relaxed and loves her - she is an excellent teacher, and, like your DS's, sweet and kind, much of the time.

If he's doing well, and generally happy, let him get used to it.

I think teachers need a 'don't bother me' face at certain times of the day.

LOL talk about 360' appraisals...teachers work under them every day, don't they?

Thanks, you helped me out.

At our school we have a no shouting policy. In the morning when you are trying to prepare for the day - it is not the best time for parents to come and discuss issues. I would be concerned if it continued (is she new to teaching or v. experienced?) What is the schools policy on discipline in the classroom?

how does that work then annwoo. are the children all quiet?

I don't think shouting is used for discipline, more to gain a child's attention in a class of 29 far mor interesting peoeple, all noisy, and 500 far mor interesting things, all fascinating.

Southeastra - you just speak v. loudly no seriously you try and use other methods warnings, timeout etc. You do raise your voice on the odd occasion. By the way I don't teach a group of angels - inner city london school.

Whoops - London not london -has to be corrected now you know I'm a teacher.

don't half the class end up doing time out?

Nope - you also 'manage' the classroom - children who chat to each other don't sit next to each other. For the first few weeks of the term seem to be always repeating myself, keeping children in for break (not the whole of their break) etc - but when I have the class where I want them, we all have great fun. I really miss it now!

The teacher in DDs class shouts initially to get attention, then speaks normally.

I have only helped out in class - but shouting is MANDATORY!

MMJ, yes, if the noise is fairly low level, DDs teacher does a kind of similar thing with her hands...

You can speak sternly, but you do not have to shout - I would hate to go to work and shout most of the day - I imagine the children would hate it too, even if they are not being shouted at directly.

I don't think it can be helped when you can have up to 28+ over-excited noisy kids in the class. I wouldn't worry too much.
My dd teacher is lovely and seems to be very sweet (this is her first teaching job) but DD does say that when she shouts, you know about it!!!!

an update,
when I picked DS up from school today the first thing he told me was he had talked to her and said that it was not him who was making the silly noise in class yesterday, she apoligised to him

She sounds nice.
In dd's school they clap a short sequence to get their attention and the children clap back.

you know welshmum you just reminded me that in DS's nursery they used to clap and then say "one, two, three, eyes on me" - that got their attention.

I'm not a teacher, but as a parent of a Yr1 child, I would think it depends whether she shouts because she has lost her temper, or whether she raises her voice in a stern, "don't mess with me" sort of way.

DD1's Reception teacher definitely had a "don't mess with me" face. But I would be amazed if she ever lost control and just yelled at anyone. I was quite shocked the first time I heard her raise her voice at the class. When you're not used to a school environment, it's a bit alarming. But when I got used to it, I realised she was totally in control and raised her voice just enough to establish some order in a large class.

You may also find that she mellows out a bit next term, once she's established who's boss!

Cranberry, yes it is a good job you left the profession cos I read on another thread that you used to deliberately make the children cry. That is evil!!