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Tips on what to do if you are not happy with school allocation

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PatriciaHolm · 15/04/2021 19:12

I posted this in Secondary Education at the time of national offer day, and given it's NOD for Primaries in England and Wales tomorrow I thought I would repost here, as it seemed to be useful..

OK, so it's National Offer Day for Primaries tomorrow, so I thought it might be useful to do a quick summary post, primarily on what to do if you aren't happy, as I know it will come up a lot today....(FWIW, I sit on Appeals Panels, and also a Chair of Governors. There are several other panelists around too.) Hopefully this will be helpful.

What to do if you get a school you don't want?

  1. Accept it. This is does not signal to the LA that you are happy, it just locks in a "last resort" option. It has NO impact on waiting lists - you get no preferential treatment on lists or at appeal if you turn the place down, nor are you negatively impacted if you have accepted a place.
If you turn it down, the LA no longer has an obligation to find you a place, so you will be dependent on waiting lists/appeals. If they don't come through, you could find yourself with no place in September. So ONLY turn it down if homeschool (or private) is definitely an option......

2.Get yourself onto Waiting lists for schools you do want. In some areas you are automatically put on lists for schools higher in your preferences that you don't get into, in some cases you need to ask, so check - your LA website, email, or login portal will probably tell you what to do. You can also add yourself to lists for schools you didn't apply for (some LAs limit the amount of lists you can be on though.)

  1. Check there has been no mistake. If you are genuinely surprised and you think a mistake might have been made - wrong distance used, sibling link ignored etc - it's worth checking. Your decision letter/portal is likely to have the criteria you were assessed under for each school and, for example, the distance used in the case of distance criteria, so check all is well. If it doesn't, check with the LA. But be patient, lots of people will be calling/emailing today/monday...
  1. Think about appeals. You can appeal for any school you applied for and didn't get into. However, note that appeals for many reception years are ICS; Infant Class Size, which are exceptionally hard to win as the law caps classes at 30 in years R,1,2 unless there are exceptional circumstances (basically if the admissions authority made an error that cost you a place, or the decision not to admit is so unreasonable (in a specific legal sense) that no sensible person would have made it. Very few ICS appeals are granted).

Non ICS appeals are different and I won't go into depth here as each appeal is different, but essentially you need to show that the detriment to the school of taking another pupil is less than the detriment to your child of getting a place. If you decide to do this, post and ask for help! A number of us here are happy to do so.

If you are happy - great! Accept it, if you need to (some LAs will auto accept for you.) And be patient - most schools are a bit busy right now (!) so it may be a while before you hear from your chosen school re. induction etc.

Any questions, do ask. Sometimes it's easier for someone not emotionally involved to figure out the answer or find a detail.

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user1495884673 · 15/04/2021 19:15

You might want to request MNHQ amend your title.

PatriciaHolm · 15/04/2021 19:17

@user1495884673

You might want to request MNHQ amend your title.
aha! well spotted. will do!
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OverTheRainbow88 · 15/04/2021 19:19

Wow great! Thank you

HolmeH · 15/04/2021 19:24

Can I ask - I live in a slightly odd area where there are 7 small primary schools in one medium sized village. 3 are always oversubbed (the ones we put down 🙈) but the rest aren’t, in the past 6 years they never have been & when looking round last year the headteachers said they’d be astonished if that changed this year (obviously I acknowledge it could though!)

We like 5/7 of these schools. One of the ones we don’t like is our catchment school. It’s rated inadequate. If we don’t get top 3, I assume we’ll be auto- allocated catchment (again, never full). But if the other schools we like aren’t full, how do we go about approaching them & asking for a place?! Do we accept catchment & then contact these schools tomorrow or do we contact these schools before we accept anything? Or do you just contact the council?

Just to reiterate, this isn’t about going on waiting lists, rather approaching local schools who have places (if they do)..

PatriciaHolm · 15/04/2021 19:53

@holmeh In your case, assuming the schools in question are not academies (and so are not their own admissions authority) I would at this point still go through the LA, as they will continue co-ordinating admissions at this point. This is one of the few times I would suggest calling them and explaining.

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YukoandHiro · 15/04/2021 20:19

Thank you OP, this is useful

admission · 15/04/2021 21:17

HolmeH, you cannot assume anything when it comes school admissions. You will be allocated to a school tomorrow. Hopefully it is one of your three preferences, in which just accept the offer and you have a place at the school in September.
If the LA cannot allocate you a place at any of your preferred schools, then they will allocate a school that has places, which is normally the closest school with places. The likelyhood is that this will be the nearest school, which you do not want.
If that happens then you should accept the school offered as it is your ultimate fall back position, so that you do have a school place for September. All admissions in the "block" allocations are handled by the LA, so as Patricia Holmes says you need to speak to them. Normally there is a period of 2 to 3 weeks when the LA collates all the acceptances and those that decline the offer. Then they will start to allocate to schools from the waiting list where there are places. Certainly in my area the LA will insist that you make a formal request for a place at the schools you expect to have places and who you are happy with but were not on your original preferences. In effect you are going on the waiting list for that school. You need to speak to the LA to establish if these schools do have places and secondly how you need to apply. It certainly should not be the school itself.

CornishTiger · 16/04/2021 06:39

Bumping for those getting offers today.

PanelChair · 16/04/2021 13:33

Excellent advice from PatriciaHolm.

Can I also suggest that if people want advice on potential appeals, they start their own thread and include as much information as they can: under what admissions category they applied, why did they not get a place, are they in or out of catchment etc? Otherwise, it can get very confusing trying to have several conversations about several appeals all on the same thread.

meditrina · 16/04/2021 17:35

An evening bump, now that the pan-London offers are out (they're always the latest!)

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