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Live online lessons for primary school pupils?

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Localocal · 10/02/2021 12:58

I'm wondering what most families' experience of remote learning is for children in state primary schools - what's "normal" at the moment.

If you have a child in a state primary, can you reply to say

  1. how many hours of LIVE online teaching are they getting from their school on an average day?

  2. how many hours of RECORDED TEACHING (recorded by the school's own teachers, not outside content) on an average day?

  3. how many hours of RECORDED CONTENT from outside sources are they told to access on an average day?

  4. is there an online daily registration?

Thank you to anyone who can share their experience.

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TryingNotToPanicOverCovid · 10/02/2021 14:48

Wow Ginty that's really bad. What are they getting?

My secondary child has a full suite of lessons each day (I like that in a way I wouldn't with my primary)

PastMyBestBeforeDate · 10/02/2021 14:49

No registration or live lessons for my Y5, thank goodness. They get a welcome video, some third party videos and reactions to uploaded set tasks.

PastMyBestBeforeDate · 10/02/2021 14:50

Yes my Y9 has more live lessons that she can cope with!

Dogsarehairy · 10/02/2021 14:51

Why do you want to know?
Lazy journalism

Both the EEF and Ofsted agree that there is no evidence to say that live lessons are better.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/whats-working-well-in-remote-education/whats-working-well-in-remote-education

educationendowmentfoundation.org.uk/news/eef-blog-live-teaching-and-pre-recorded-video-lessons/

GintyMcGinty · 10/02/2021 14:53

@TryingNotToPanicOverCovid

My primary child gets 3 x PowerPoints a day , some worksheets, sometimes a YouTube link and can do sums of if she wants. She's P4 (age 8) she has had 2 live check ins.

My high school child S1 (age 12) gets a PowerPoint for each subject and worksheets. He has to complete an assignment fir each which is usually a 10 question quiz. He has to send an email each day to register. They've done a few live check ins - maybe 1 a week.

This is widespread across the local authority I live in Scotland.

I don't know anyone getting any live or recorded teaching unless they are at private schools.

It's awful.

scissy · 10/02/2021 15:01

Y3, no registration session (thankfully!). Teams lesson 3 times a day for 30 mins to introduce the subject followed by an exercise offline, although sometimes for "topic" they might just do the whole session online together if it's an experiment that needs resources kids might not have at home.

P.E is either an offline school supplied video or link to cosmic yoga/Joe Wicks and sometimes the offline follow on exercise might include links to bitesize or HH where relevant. Once a week there's an assembly and story session.

purpleme12 · 10/02/2021 15:01

No live teaching
daily registration/check in but we don't participate a lot cos of work.
teacher sends recorded videos or outside videos to listen to the actual videos are minutes but i've no idea how long the tasks are supposed to take as i'm sure they take us way longer than they should do or she just does it half heartedly so they take her way less than they should do. one or the other.

Italiandreams · 10/02/2021 15:06

I complete the white rose video and task with my class as well as set it on line, it easily takes an hour. The 3 or 4 hours includes the work, not just watching the video. A couple of posters have said 3 separate videos are 45 minutes, I can’t see how that is right.

Italiandreams · 10/02/2021 15:08

The smaller the school, the more difficult it is to offer live teaching too, especially with high numbers of children in school.

Mincepiesallyearround · 10/02/2021 15:14

I guess it’s not so much we want a live lesson but once a week or so it would have been nice to have a 15 min call with just half the class while the teacher reads a story or they do something fun.

Aroundtheworldin80moves · 10/02/2021 15:18

I think that the high numbers of children in school has affected the quality of home provision... The teachers are only human at the end of the day. It's not a criticism of them-they are working hard. But my children feel completely disconnected now.

JhsLs · 10/02/2021 15:21

Year 4.

Registration and collective worship: 8:45-9am live

English: 1 hour live

Maths: 1 hour live

Foundation, e.g. science or history etc: 1 hour live

One other optional lesson uploaded with slides to work through

sanityisamyth · 10/02/2021 15:25

My DS (7) gets 30 mins on Teams twice a week. There's no actual teaching though. It's mostly the teacher reading a book, or doing a show and tell, or asking how their week has been.

They get some pre-recorded videos of telling them what their work is for the day, but this is also uploaded. There is no actual teaching of HOW to do the work. For example, they will be told that they are working on telling the time, and a Twinkl worksheet is uploaded for them to complete. They're not actually TAUGHT how to tell the time.

Luckily I'm an ex teacher and a full time student now so I have got the time to support him. I dread to think how others in his year are coping, or how their parents are managing to juggle homeschooling and working.

SomeonesRealName · 10/02/2021 15:26

About 10-15 minutes live teaching in the morning, then about 15 minutes story in the afternoon four days a week. It's not interactive though, you have to email afterwards if you have a question so it may as well not be live. Then National Academy stuff to do and hand in about 3 tasks per day.

NaturalBlondeYeahRight · 10/02/2021 15:33

All live lessons from 9 until about 2 with the normal lunch and breaks. Goodbye at the end of the day. Lessons recorded for those doing it a different times. Worksheets put on in advance if wanting to do at different time. No need to print off if you can’t though. Works amazingly - I’m very proud of the school.

ConstanceMoss · 10/02/2021 16:04

Y5

9.15-10.15 Live register and maths lessons with white rose, teacher questions to all pupils and interaction on whiteboards. Children complete white rose work that is submitted and marked.

10.30 -11.30 live English lessons. Sometimes uses oak academy, but all managed by the teacher stopping and starting and asking question etc. Work completed and submitted for marking.

1.30-2.15 live afternoon session- usually reading, but sometimes music or PE.

It works perfectly at this age and isn't too much. Dd is able to get on to the zoom session herself and follow her lesson and complete the work independently. It gives me a bit of space to get things done.

Choconuttolata · 10/02/2021 16:22
  1. Year 4 child - none at all, they are trialling live class interaction time at the moment, but not all the children can be seen on camera due to the limitations of the software and the teacher/other children seemed to ignore children who could not be seen on screen. This would be once or twice a week if it works.

Year 2 child - 2 X 30 min zoom sessions.
The morning one is either phonics, English or maths with the focus changing each day. The afternoon one is story/literacy comprehension time.

  1. year 4 child - 3 X 15-20 minutes with either teacher talking with PowerPoint but teacher not seen or teacher talking in small window at side of PowerPoint slides.

Year 2 child - none

  1. year 4 child - 2-3 X 10 minutes for English, maths and topic. 1 X 30 minute for P.E.

Year 2 child - occasionally to support particular topic lessons

  1. is there an online daily registration? Neither of my children's schools require this.
dipdips · 10/02/2021 18:39

We are getting very little.

One class zoom a week and one with a TA. These are socialising sessions not teaching.
One 1 minute recording to start the week.
A very occasional video from teacher in a powerpoint, but this might be once a week.
Daily whiterose maths and twinkle sheets. A few other topics with links to videos.

Certainly not enough support to mean that I can do my job properly.
It is difficult not to feel let down when you read what other children are having from other primary schools and wonder what your own teachers are doing to fill their day if other teachers are doing so much more.

But my DC is happy if a little unmotivated and there are more serious things going on in the world. I can't see it holding my DC back and I certainly don't see it meaning that they earn £40k less over a life time - how do you even judge that?
I just hope that they can go back on March 8th though as I think by then we will be bored rigid by twinkl sheets and whiterose maths.

Ceara · 10/02/2021 18:46
  1. None
  2. Up to 15 mins
  3. Occasional short YouTube videos - 5-10 mins
  4. None - one optional class video call each week

KS1
I am very happy with the above

Lifechange2020 · 10/02/2021 18:55

Yr 1 and yr 6. Year 1 has 2 live half hour sessions at 9.30 and 1.30. Has around 4 tasks a day to complete and we send a photo to teacher of their best work that day. Books added to Bug Club daily.
Year 6 - 3 one hour live sessions plus year assembly live once a week. Averages 4 assignments a day that need to be handed in on teams.
Really pleased with both schools, have also had weekly phone calls. All work that is handed in receives feedback.

TheJerkStore · 10/02/2021 18:59

Year 1 - 2x30 mins live sessions per week plus 2 or 3 very short pre recorded videos. Everything else is work sheets or activities.

lavenderlou · 10/02/2021 19:04

Im a KS1 teacher. I do one live meet a week for my class. Usually about 25/30 log on. The rest of the time I do a daily recorded English video and 2-3 other recorded lessons a week and we have White Rose maths videos which we send out. I am in school with a bubble 3 days per week.

I emailed parents about whether they would like extra live sessions. Only 6 parents replied, out of which only 4 were interested in any extra live lessons, so I run a small group reading session for them.

The recorded lessons seem quite successful. They get between 20 and 25 views and we have 5 or 6 children in the bubble.

cozycat1 · 10/02/2021 19:06

Ha love how your question asks for answers in HOURS. minutes more like here.
Scotland mid primary year:

No live lessons.1 x15 min google meet with teacher and whole class 3 times a week. This is more social/pass on info.
About 5 min teacher pre recorded video and /or a powerpoint with video sound each day.
Links other varies - might be link to a 1-2mins Bitesize type videoOnline mark yourself present everyday

Rest worksheets/writing task or online games to practice maths stuff

Dentistlakes · 10/02/2021 19:06

No live teaching, all recorded by the teachers (no outside sources). Live catch ups with small groups once a week and a live lesson with support for learning if they need it. It works very well for us as we can do it as and when and we aren’t tied to particular times. All work is marked daily and feedback given. To be honest, I think a full day of live teaching at primary age is counterproductive.

lavenderlou · 10/02/2021 19:08

My own DC have 30 minutes per day each plus a weekly PE zoom (the school has a PE teacher on the staff). I have them home 2 days a week when I'm not in school and to be honest I find it a hassle having to log them in as they can't always see the shared screen in their tablets so have to use my laptop which means I can't get on with work.

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