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KS1 live lessons

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Snuzzle · 04/02/2021 17:49

Are your KS1 age children getting live lessons and if so what do they consist of and how long do they last?
My DD is Y2 and ‘live lessons’ have only been started this week. So far they mostly seem to be the class waving to each other and then the teacher telling them what the work for the day is. They get about 10 minutes online and then the teacher sends them worksheets to do in their own time. We then get another log on about 2 hours later to check in and see if any help is needed. Older years seem to be getting a full hours teaching am and then again pm so wondering if this is normal for Y2

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FurryGiraffe · 04/02/2021 18:17

DS2 is in reception but they have the same basic set up throughout reception and KS1. He's live on Zoom from about 9.30-10.15, the 15 min break, then another 45 minutes ish. They do some phonics: sounding out, blending, plus whatever sound they're practicing that day, including writing the grapheme (they do this while still on the call). They do rhymes and stories, a bit of maths, a bit of independent writing (again they stay on the call, and the teacher puts a timer on the screen). They also do a bit of show and tell every day. It's pretty packed and full on, and to start with it was a bit chaotic and I thought it was going to be a disaster, but they've settled into it. His teacher is simultaneously teaching the children in school and doing the live lesson. I think she may be superhuman.

Snuzzle · 04/02/2021 19:07

Our teacher is only in school one day a week on a rota so working at home most of the time. It just worries me that while they’re getting plenty of work to do and feedback on everything they’re not getting a lot of actual teaching.

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cliffdiver · 04/02/2021 19:13

I teach year one, but the Year 2 class is the same.

Each day, I live teach 40 mins phonics and 20 mins maths. Both are a mixture of old and new learning.

trilbydoll · 04/02/2021 19:16

Y1 dd2 gets 3x 10 minute sessions a day to say hello, sing a song, read a story, play a game etc, no actual teaching. Then 1x 15 minute live session for handwriting.

The vast major of the teaching is 4x recorded videos per day, all around 10-15 minutes, with accompanying worksheets. If you have any problems you can email the teachers, we never have so I've got no idea how they assist.

SirSamuelVimes · 04/02/2021 19:24

We have no live lessons at all. Some pre-recorded videos have started this week. But nothing live, not even a daily check in. It's shit and I feel like we've been cut loose. Year 2.

Stupidusernamefaff · 04/02/2021 19:30

@FurryGiraffe

DS2 is in reception but they have the same basic set up throughout reception and KS1. He's live on Zoom from about 9.30-10.15, the 15 min break, then another 45 minutes ish. They do some phonics: sounding out, blending, plus whatever sound they're practicing that day, including writing the grapheme (they do this while still on the call). They do rhymes and stories, a bit of maths, a bit of independent writing (again they stay on the call, and the teacher puts a timer on the screen). They also do a bit of show and tell every day. It's pretty packed and full on, and to start with it was a bit chaotic and I thought it was going to be a disaster, but they've settled into it. His teacher is simultaneously teaching the children in school and doing the live lesson. I think she may be superhuman.
She literally must be. Hats off to the amazing teachers doing this!!
curlyLJ · 04/02/2021 19:33

My DD (year 2) gets 30 mins maths and 20 mins phonics daily. Also 2 x 20min PE sessions per week.
There are other pre-recorded videos, but that's it for the live stuff - it is proper teaching, not just setting out work for the day.

curlyLJ · 04/02/2021 19:34

Just to add, sometimes 1 of the maths sessions is swapped with English, but only 1 a week.

FourTeaFallOut · 04/02/2021 19:36

No. My y2 hasn't had one live lesson. The pre-recorded lessons have been pretty good though and work is marked quickly and thoroughly. I think that's a fair swap.

KeyboardWorriers · 04/02/2021 19:37

Zero live lessons from school. My daughter hates the recorded videos. We are using a tutor for maths and English and Outschool for arts and science ( outschool.com/?signup=true&usid=oJXLafjD&utm_campaign=share_invite_link )

She learns really well with live lessons and hates the recorded one. The keyworker children in school get all day with a teacher yet keyworker children at home get zero time with their teacher. Totally unbalanced

Smellybluecheese · 04/02/2021 19:38

My daughter is in Y1. She gets a 25 minute live phonics lesson every day, and then a 10 minute story time three times a week. Other lessons (maths and English) are 10 minute recorded videos with worksheets.

HelloMist · 04/02/2021 19:39

We are Y1 and have no live lessons. We do have a weekly video call where the teacher reads a book and the children can see one another and interact a little bit, answer questions. Not all the class join though, so it makes me wonder whether some would miss out if there were actual live lessons. At least when it's recorded it's more flexible for parents with a job, other children etc. A certain time of day isn't convenient for everyone and there can be technical issues or people forget.

Recorded videos from the actual teachers are nice to have (versus being only Oak Academy etc). Though perhaps being recorded they can't judge their audience and won't know if the kids are getting bored or not understanding. Don't know if a live virtual lesson would be any better for this, perhaps being able to stop for questions would break it up a bit when the recorded ones can get lengthy and dry.

randomsabreuse · 04/02/2021 19:43

My DD (Y1 equivalent) has 2 live "lessons" a week. Rest is recorded videos and seesaw tasks. Tbh I prefer the not live stuff as it's easy to differentiate (she's in a mixed year class) so the teacher just assigns the right video (that she's recorded) to the right child (for phonics) as there's different phonics sounds for each year. It's also less public who is getting different work - the only reason I know my DD is getting different things is from the video reviews of work highlights.

Normally the class is fairly free flow to allow differentiated work - children are called to the teaching table.

The live lessons are a show and tell and a story time - it would be chaotic if more interaction were required!

Oh12lookanothernamechange1234 · 04/02/2021 19:45

Year 1 - he’s in school but for the ones who aren’t no live lessons at all. There are pre recorded bits here and there but that’s all really

cautiouscovidity · 04/02/2021 19:46

My kids are KS2 (year 4 and 6) and get no live lessons. So I think your yr 2 is very lucky and to be honest what you've described sounds about right for that age.

Snuzzle · 04/02/2021 19:47

As far as I can tell children in school are mostly with teaching assistants or teachers from another year and not getting any extra attention. DD is working at Y4 level in maths and top group for English so I’m not massively concerned about that, though getting her to practice handwriting is a trial. Her curriculum lessons seem really unbalanced and as though she’s not actually learning anything. The work only takes about 10 minutes and just doesn’t seem to go into any depth and the teacher doesn’t actually teach anything, just sets the work. I’m spending hours on a night researching their topic and finding extra work she can do that’ll interest her but I’m definitely not a teacher lol

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MatildaStoker · 04/02/2021 19:55

DC2 is in Year 2.

They get a live English lesson and a live Maths lesson daily. Typically the lessons last around 30 minutes. It looks like the teacher is doing actual teaching during that time to me when I’ve listened in.
They get another live lesson daily, which rotates around other subjects like science / geography / history / RE / computing / PE and so on.

After each lesson, with the exception of PE, the children have an assignment or worksheets to do based on what’s been taught in the lesson.

They get a “story time” session last thing in the school day, usually in this there’s some general chat about how everyone is getting on, and the teacher reads a short story to the class.

They’re also expected to spend time practicing reading and spelling on the online sites the school has subscribed to, the teacher is checking whether this is done.

Usually the teachers at the school are teaching from school (unless they’re self isolating or having to look after their own self isolating DC), so teaching the key worker / vulnerable pupils and the remote pupils simultaneously. The numbers in school are small enough for all of the in-school pupils to be logged onto Teams on the school computers during the lessons.

Overall I’d say that DC1 (KS2) is getting a bit more online teaching time - same sort of 3 lesson a day structure - than DC2 is, but it’s not a massive discrepancy between the two of them.

MsSoulSister · 04/02/2021 20:00

We get a sheet with links to Oak Academy lessons each day that the teacher doesn't seem to have watched herself. Good hey?

MsSoulSister · 04/02/2021 20:03

I'm surprised to read that your child is at year 4 level OP. How do you know that? At my daughter's school they are really reluctant to let pupils work above their age and talk about developing mastery. It's long been a bone of contention for me so I'm interested to hear more.

NerrSnerr · 04/02/2021 20:36

My daughter is in year 2. They have 2-3 live lessons a day apart from Wednesday which is 'well being Wednesday'. During live lessons all children have their cameras and microphones off and the chat is only turned on for children to answer questions. It works really well but the teachers need to be firm.

Snuzzle · 04/02/2021 22:08

@MsSoulSister they use schofield and sims books alongside maths worksheets and discovered in reception that she was just really good at maths. They moved her through the work books and started giving her harder and harder worksheets. I wouldn’t have known except the head happened to sit in on our parents evening last November and mentioned she was doing the same maths work as the year 4s. He’s quite keen to push her ahead and not let her be held back so sent home lots of extra sheets and her current workbook for her to do alongside her usual maths. I think it’s down to each school whether they let children move ahead, another school in our area refuses to move children up levels no matter what.

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minniemango · 04/02/2021 22:15

Live lessons for little children are an absolute nightmare in my experience!

There's loads of muting/unmuting, kids wandering away from the screen, "look at my hamster", dad on a loud work call in the background.
It moves too slow for the more able children and it's too fast for the ones that are struggling.

BendingSpoons · 04/02/2021 22:20

At our infant school, each class gets a 15 min live call once per week. DD is Reception and it is lots of saying hi and Star of the Week. The learning is prerecorded. I actually prefer this. Much more flexible and less chaotic!

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