Year 3 teacher not marking homework

[TeeA06]

Hi all my DS is in yr3 and homework is set on google classroom, however no feedback is ever given or grading ever given. I spoke with his teacher over the phone with regards to this. She explained that she speaks with them during free time during the week.

I checked with my son and he said she never does. This is a worry for me as I do not want my son to slip through the crack.

How do I go about tackling this without singling out my son.

Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you

Yes because this was said...

OverTheRainbow88
@missbunnyrabbit

Yes let’s call parents ignorant for wanting their kids homework to be marked occasionally.

Maybe the parent spends half a Saturday trying to engage their kid to do it so would like the kid to get some feedback so it doesn’t make it even harder to get the kid to do it.

Kids get detentions in my school for not doing homework, imagine if I then didn’t mark the work done, none would do it so then I would be holding detentions for whole classes!

Please don’t call parents ignorant.
@OverTheRainbow88

Yes, you are ignorant. How much time do you think teachers have?

That’s why I suggested time keeping, rather than calling parents ignorant for wanting feedback

Mine are primary (KS1) and homework is marked, even gasps in Covid times. Homework books are given in at the end of each half term and given back in the first week of the next half term.
Mine love reading the comments from the teacher.

I don't mark every piece of homework. Students self mark some. I'm not lazy and I don't have timekeeping issues. It's just far more efficient and I don't really need to see every single piece. in great detail.

If my kids are doing the work it should be marked otherwise what's the point?

Extra reading - benefits the child
Extra maths - benefits the child
Research - benefits the child
Project work - benefits the child

If your child needs praise and feedback for every single accomplishment i think you need to work on that

Agree re extra reading etc benefits the child. However extra maths does not benefit the child at all if the child is not told whether they got the maths questions right or wrong. In fact repeatedly practising doing maths questions incorrectly would be detrimental as the child simply engrains an incorrect understanding. It is very important that maths is marked whether that be by a computer or a teacher or a parent.

They aren’t teaching answers - they teach method, the answer is irrelevant.

The maths curriculum and exams give more weight to the workings out than the answer because they want to know - for example - can they use the column addition method, can they work out that X+y=3 and show the workings, can they use a ruler, do they know M and mm do they understand shapes and angles,

Hence teachers banging on about showing workings out

Oh dear, that is a shame your dc homework is not being marked. It doesn’t seem like your child is that bothered by it-perhaps it’s just you?

I’m sorry but I disagree, you cannot understand method in maths unless you are getting the right answers. That’s like saying a child is reading correctly if they are using a good method but reading every word incorrectly. In maths method and answer go together. You don’t teach the answer but you check the answer to see if the child understands how to do it. It’s also no use to a child who is good at maths to go through in class questions that lots of children got wrong but that they themselves didn’t get wrong and not even tell them of the one more difficult question they did get wrong which they might benefit from having another go at.

@BluebellsGreenbells

They aren’t teaching answers - they teach method, the answer is irrelevant.

The maths curriculum and exams give more weight to the workings out than the answer because they want to know - for example - can they use the column addition method, can they work out that X+y=3 and show the workings, can they use a ruler, do they know M and mm do they understand shapes and angles,

Hence teachers banging on about showing workings out

Ah ok, so when you say you’re not marking Maths homework you are actually going through and checking they’re using the correct method? Just not marking the actual answer?

One of my kids' teachers is even refusing to handle the children's class books - so NOTHING is being marked at all! Won't go near the kids so not even an idea of looking at the work they've been doing so how the hell she's managing to assess the ones who don't speak up in class or have language difficulties I do not know!

They send homework sheets home but have told the kids they NEVER want to see them back in school because it will spread corona. That's done a huge load of help to bring DD2's anxiety levels back up to the ceiling after all the progress we'd made calming her down. I can live with the no marking, live with the no assessment or support for SN kids - but I'm fucked off they've damaged her mental health again after knowing how fragile it was.

Teacher in question manages to find a hell of a lot of time to be posting on the school twitter account sharing anything complaining about how overworked and in danger teachers are - during class teaching hours though. I've taught myself for many years - I know when parents evening is just flannel of "oh yes they're a really lovely child, settled in beautifully, we have so much fun together and they're a delight to have in the class" and no actual knowledge of my child. I'm just gritting teeth and trying to sort out the mess at home.

Other child's teacher in the same school - pretty much business as usual. Whacks a face visor on to go work closely with kids but things are being marked as normal and DD1 is having a whale of a time by all accounts!

I'm seriously considering looking for an alternative school for DD2 but having to let corona settle down first as no where is open to look around at present.

[quote OverTheRainbow88]@missbunnyrabbit

I’m a secondary teacher, teaching 5 different exam classes. I find time to mark the homework they’ve given to their time to do.

Maybe you need to become for efficient with your time keeping.[/quote]
@OverTheRainbow88

Okay? Poor you? I teach Year 1. Two very different jobs, in two different schools. Just because YOU have time on your hands, doesn't mean everyone does. You're showing your ignorance more and more.

I disagree

If they do

1234
-654

And they can knock to borrow form the next column then they understand the method. In an exam 5 mark question they would get 4 for method and 1 for the correct answer

The same for their maths targets - can they use x method, can they measure y, can they work out doubling or halves; can they read a clock,

So if they wrote 16+16 but got 31 as an answer, it shows they understand what doubling is the answer isn’t the marked method.

This is why teachers go on about writing down the workings out.

Same for literacy, content isn’t the main point, they are looking for capital letters full stops, paragraphs, alliteration, short sentences to create suspense, structure or layout of a letter, date in the right place, address in the right place, or a fairy tale with a moral, or a piece comparing points of view,

What research suggests learning the method (and demonstrating this) is an effective way to develop numeracy? I find it interesting so much of testing focuses on the method rather than the answer.

I'm genuinely curious as math is fairly black and white and learning precision in executing a method (and there is usually more than one method for deriving an answer) is key.

@BluebellsGreenbells

I disagree

If they do

1234
-654

And they can knock to borrow form the next column then they understand the method. In an exam 5 mark question they would get 4 for method and 1 for the correct answer

The same for their maths targets - can they use x method, can they measure y, can they work out doubling or halves; can they read a clock,

So if they wrote 16+16 but got 31 as an answer, it shows they understand what doubling is the answer isn’t the marked method.

This is why teachers go on about writing down the workings out.

Same for literacy, content isn’t the main point, they are looking for capital letters full stops, paragraphs, alliteration, short sentences to create suspense, structure or layout of a letter, date in the right place, address in the right place, or a fairy tale with a moral, or a piece comparing points of view,

I completely understand that method is important, but if you’re not marking homework how do you know they’re using the correct method?

We have had it with ours at secondary school...the fucking union! Advising members not to Mark homework as it is Covid risk. I just laughed..the unions spend so much time devising ways for teacher to avoid doing what they should do. I wonder how long a shop worker would last if they refused to touch items as it was a Covid risk..

From experience expect to battle to get some teachers to do anything.

Surely the difference being that when buying from a shop you don't take the item home, keep it in your house for a week and then take it back to the shop for shop assistant to wrap up and keep herself?

The teacher may spend a little more time with your son now you have pointed it out. You may ask your son gently to ask her questions about his work during free time too.

I teach year 4 and spend at least two hours at home marking class work in detail every evening... having left school at 6 and I arrive at work at 7.30 am. So no, I don’t mark homework. Homework is always work they have covered/are covering in class. It’s about practising what is being done in class and showing the parents how the child is doing. We discuss in class how it went and the children who struggle with the homework get to sit with a Ta and go through it again instead of another activity such as reading or assembly. This will hopefully be at least the fourth time they’ve gone through it. (1. Teaching in class and practising for 2 or 3 days, 2, homework with parents, 3 with the ta.) usually one on one with parents helps the child who has something they were not sure of or missed in class.

Wow @Sunflowergirl1. I work a 70 hour week and so do all my colleagues. We put in one on one with as many children as we can, but with 30 children and 10 subjects to teach there are only so many hours in the day.
It’s a fact that children whose parents support them too do better in school 100% of the time.

My DC isn't having any homework marked AT ALL.