Is there any data source to see from a particularly primary school where most of the alumni have moved on into secondary ed?

[Ohlife2020]

As the title.

I'm having heading looking at the options for secondary schools. Would be helpful to find some data online for the primary school DS attends. But does it exisit?

Sorry, bad spelling, "Does it exist?"

Not unless the school have published it, no. You could ask the school. Not sure what info it really gives you though unless there is a secondary which gives priority to children from that primary regardless of where they live? If a large proportion go to private or selective schools it almost certainly means there is a culture of tutoring (I can't speak for Kent etc there but even there I suspect many children are tutored outside school).

@GolfForBrains, I think I'm sort of after a benchmark of DS's projected academic level. (Sounds silly as each individual is different). I believe there will be a culture of tutoring, as it's a good school and parents here has sort of reputation for caring academic outcomes. But I have little clue about what's the overall level of tutored results. Presumably, there would be a general range of decent school to target if attending 11+. Goals that are not too high but not too low either, if you see what I mean.

After a bit research, I came to realisation that we are not in the catchment area of any decent secondary school who's non-selective. And I really have hard time to believe that we may have to move again some time in future just because of this!

Sorry for so many grammar mistakes! Typed too quick...

Lots of schools - state as well as private - collate information on where their year 6 pupils go and will share it.

Definitely worth asking but if you want to know how well a school really does ask them what their value add score is. That should shows how much they work with the individual child rather than being a general good middle class school which takes in good pupils and churns out what it took in......

Good luck!

@MindfulBear, Thanks. I think I will ask the school.

But for "ask them what their value add score is". Is there such an official parameter? Certainly any school would give a very generic answer praising their school?

I work at a school in Kent - a grammar county. We are non-selective (but faith). We are a fairly new 6th form and this year had 2 start medical degrees and many more went to good universities. We also had many other students go onto FE colleges and apprenticeships which was the right choice for them. We had Year 11 students get all GCSEs at 7+. So clearly our teaching was more than able to support students of all academic persuasions. Please dont discount non-selective schools. They have massively changed since I attended grammar in the same county 40 years ago and the secondary moderns were poor in terms of teaching and facilities.

PS if you are looking at grammar schools very sadly tutoring outside school is almost mandatory. Such a shame. Some students really struggle once they get in - over tutored and the stretch and pressure is too much.

@spongedog, much appreciated for the insights.

There are good non-selective schools in our LA. But sadly, we not not in the catchment area.

Regarding tutoring, we debated this at home. In the end the question falls down to "when" instead of "yes/no". Pressure is too high, especially now I realised we don't have many choices if we want DS pursues his full potential. About the possibility of him getting in a decent school by tutoring but then struggling to catch up, I'm hoping DH is right. He said we have been pushing DS since his reception year. He had/still has various problems in terms of learning (can't say it's learning difficulty...yet). We persisted to push him at home for the subjects he lagged behind. In the end, not only he caught up but also remained as the more capable ones in his year. In some way, DH believes he has the capability and our job is to let it shine. Each child is unique. In his case, tutoring might benefit him more than other - obviously also depends on the tutoring quality.

We have a tutor - since start of Y3.
However nothing to do with wanting to get child into selective school but a lot more to do with how the school were failing the child. In turn his natural confidence and self esteem had been almost extinguished.

It was the tutor that pushed us to get a CAMHS referral. And yes. His hunch was right. Now we can get the right support for our child to shine.

I'm disappointed the school had not already mentioned the issues to us and what they might mean and what we could do about them. Child is our PFB so we didn't realise the behaviour and issues were not normal!! School clearly did tho based on the answers they provided to CAMHS questionnaire.

Tutoring for the last 18m has been an Amazing experience. Tutor has really helped improve confidence. Also been a fab mentor during the awfulness of 2020 and an alternative confidante for our child during lockdown.

So. Don't wait too long. We wish we had found this tutor earlier.