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Bubble size dilemma - WWYD?

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bubblebubblebubbletrouble · 22/06/2020 19:02

Have NC for this dilemma.
Dd is yrR and has been back at school since 02/06. There were about 12 wk1 & then 15 in wk2. I was speaking to the head at drop off & she was saying that a couple of children had to go in the other class bubble because they were full so know this for a fact but not if anyone has withdrawn since.
Dd has come home today & said she was playing with child A. I knew this child was back today from parents WhatsApp, as school said if you don't come back this week no changes til Sept, so checked that she was in her bubble.
"Yes we had 17 today" Child B was back too.

What if anything should I do with this info??
Are the school allowed to risk assess themselves that it is safe to have more than 15?
I'm confident risk is low because recent cases in our borough are & I don't want to jeopardize dd yr3 going back next week for a transition week because of space if they start a new yrR bubble coz she's desperate to go back & Child A is friends with dd and dd doesn't have many BUT I feel like ignoring this is wrong if school are in breach of guidelines and wonder where else they might be bending the rules on things??
It's a great school who are putting wonderful interventions in place with dd during bubble time to help with her behavioural challenges so I don't want to rock the boat/create bad feeling.
Help WWYD??

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admission · 22/06/2020 21:14

The whole purpose of setting up the bubbles was that it was 15 pupils maximum and that the school set up sufficient bubbles for the whole of the year group from the start. So for each class of 30 you would have two bubbles. The simple maths would show that is one of the reasons why any school can only accept back reception, year 1 and year 6 back into school and that after that there will only be very limited space or staff.
As such I would have some concern about the level of social distancing, hand washing etc going on if the school has ignored the 15 to the class guidance. I would be tempted to contact school and just ask for reassurance that the school does have things in hand properly.

hibbledobble · 22/06/2020 21:23

Was the class size over 30 to begin with? Due to exempted children eg additional children in multiple births, those who win an appeal etc. It happens not infrequently. In this situation the school would have no choice but to have bubbles of greater than 15. I'm sure the school have risk assessed and are doing their best with the resources available.

bubblebubblebubbletrouble · 22/06/2020 21:50

Definitely plenty of handwashing going on and some social distancing going on but not perfectly within yrR at drop off & pick up & not within the bubble from what I've observed.
It's a 2 form intake 60 or maybe 61 I think.
There were 2 bubbles of upto 15 for the first 3 weeks back but this week more kids gone back & it looks like potentially instead of having a 3rd bubble with 3,4,5 kids in it or disrupting the established bubbles by moving kids around they've decided to squeeze them in.
Might see if I can grab an informal word with the head tomorrow instead of sending an email that formalises everything.

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epythymy · 22/06/2020 21:52

I'd do nothing

Beachcomber74 · 23/06/2020 11:19

Other children might have been absent. How does DD know it’s 17?

bananasplice · 23/06/2020 20:36

Are there any twins in the year? We have twins who would normally be in separate classes but we requested when they went back to be in the same bubble to limit mix of bubbles.

Sonineties · 23/06/2020 21:44

Do nothing. Two kids extra for a few days (or longer) is not going to make any difference. The 15 child limit is very arbitrary - there’s no scientific formula saying what the right number should be, particularly given how much schools differ in their space and layout.

Hercwasonaroll · 23/06/2020 21:47

Do nothing.

It was only ever government guidance and there was a caveat that schools can risk assess themselves.

Is it really worth souring a relationship with the school over?

The HT has had a tough few months without a break and is probably absolutely physically and mentally exhausted. They have 3 weeks left to try and plan for September with no guidance.

Your complaint will do nothing except make them feel even worse for the sake of one/two children being in the wrong room.

Ask yourself what you want to gain

bubblebubblebubbletrouble · 23/06/2020 22:10

It was never going to be a complaint, I wasn't unhappy about it, I just wondered if it was allowed.
Checked with TA this morning & It turns out it was as suspected and they were worried about the impact on the extra 3 or 4 children being alone in a bubble not with friends and thought it made more sense to put them into existing bubbles.
Mystery solved, no damaged relationships or arguments or complaints - I'm very happy with yrR provision all through lockdown & managing the return to school. HT has done a fab job as I have told her personally.
Thanks for the advice.

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897654321abcvrufhfgg · 23/06/2020 22:14

Our situation in my school is that we have a bubble of 20 but spread out in 2 huge classrooms and our own outside space available all day.

Hercwasonaroll · 24/06/2020 09:46

OP fair enough. It initially sounded like you were going to have a word which may have tipped a HT over the edge just mentioning it. It sounds like you handled it well and maintained a good relationship.

Ordinarily I would expect schools to be open to being questioned on decisions and explaining them. However HTs and schools have been given such negative press their morale is in the gutter. Many HTs are posting on twitter about the sheer strain they are under and the amount of parents questioning their decisions when they have taken lots of time and had to go for a 'least worst' option. Having lots of parents pile in about it doesn't help. However you sound like you handled it well.

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