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when do they get books?

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MerlinsBeard · 18/09/2007 21:23

DS1 started school and is now in his first week of full days but 3rd week there. The playing part aside, he is quite bored. He came out yesterday and said they learned about the letter S but he already knew it and wanted to read. TA said no.

He is desperate to read and (without bragging) does recognise a few words...when do they step up teh learning a bit more?

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melpomene · 09/10/2007 11:50

Last week my dd1 brought home wordless picture books (Oxford Reading Tree), which did seem rather pointless. Surely only a tiny minority of children will need to be familiarised with the basic concept of a book?

Yesterday she received her first reading book containing words, which is exciting. However I was surprised that it contains words such as 'sheet'. They have just started doing s a t p in class, so surely it would make more sense if the reading books began with words such as sat and tap?

samanthar · 09/10/2007 11:51

all schools ae different. ours actively is not giving out books they are doing phonics and learning a few of the key stage 45 words. we are having a meeting for reading next week, so am guessing this is to explain it all and i think we may get a book a night after half term, though this may be after christmas. the head explains that this way they 'take off'very quckly when they start

Gobbledispook · 09/10/2007 11:53

Ds1 couldn't read at all when he started reception. First half term they did Jolly Phonics. He got a book (with words!) by about November I think.

Ds2 went straight on to reading books because he read when he started, but most of the other kids are doing the Jolly Phonics bit and have wordless books.

Gobbledispook · 09/10/2007 11:53

'he could read when he started' that should say!

islandofsodor · 09/10/2007 12:22

If he has started with the sound s, then it sounds like it might be Jolly Phonics.

often children have to re-learn theletter sounds they have learnt in nursery and tricky sight words are introduced gradually. It is no good him being able to recognise by sighte the word and if he does not know how to decoded it. Synthetic phonics teaches the rules to decode most words. The however can only be learnt by sight.

Clary · 09/10/2007 12:22

melpomene those wordless books are to get a child used to telling you the story, also a chance to practice story telling language (eg once upon a time, suddenly, and then etc)

Even when there are words in their books our school stresses that they should describe the pix still as the words are very limited at first. Eg ask child "how is Biff feeling here? what might Chip be saying?" etc.

aintnomountainhighenough · 09/10/2007 12:38

My dd has just started reception. They are doing a letter a day. She knows them already but it is all good practice. However we have had 2 wordless books a week so far (clearly we have to have all 12 of them), she doesn't even get it out of her bag now although does tell me she has a new book. I have asked a few times about books with words but really get the feeling that they are just following a routine and unless the child can clearly actually read quite well, which dd can't, they won't send books with words home. They tell me she isn't ready, I know she is and I need her school to encourage her. I am giving them until after half term, if we don't get books with words in I'm going 'up the school'.

I agree with another dayaftertomorrow, there does seem to be a culture towards the average - I am sure that is why our education system isn't doing very well.

To go back to your question mumofmonsters I suspect they want to get them through some letters first. I would also try and find out if they are all doing the same in case they don't know the ability of your ds.

Seasider · 09/10/2007 16:51

half term seems to be a good time to ask what's going on. DD and her mates get three books a week. She is reading books with about 10 words in and they learn a sound a day with jolly phonics too. Think they give out the key words in batches after half term. But some schools do it the other way around and do key words first and then introduce "reading" books.

Rachal · 10/10/2007 00:05

In our school as soon as the kids knew their sounds they got books with words. DS knew his sounds before he went to school so was bumped up to books with words really quickly. (Oxford too) He reads very well and I and his reception teachers worked together and he missed one stage completely. now in yr 1 and on stage 7.

My advice to anyone who has a 'reader' is to keep talking to the teachers, my experience is very positive

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