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Movement05 · 09/05/2020 13:03

First, I have no desire to teacher-bash. I was a primary school teacher for many years, and, knowing how devastating parental criticism can be, I try to be as supportive as possible to DC's teachers.

DC is in Year 1 of a renowned two form entry prep school. Since schools closed down, they have put lessons on to a learning platform for us to access: three lessons a day including teacher videos are uploaded as well as 'extras'. This provides a good structure and I am aware that it is more than most state schools provide (although I know of one nearby state school that is doing almost as much). We receive brief teacher feedback for all work that DC completes and uploads. Our school has given us a 25% fee reduction, which I am not quibbling at, although some parents in DC's class have.

The planning, preparation & delivery of the lessons is done between the two parallel teachers, so sometimes one teacher uploads the lesson for a particular curricular area and sometimes the other one does. DC is in the higher ability group. Sometimes the work has been 'about right' and sometimes it has been very easy and completed within two minutes. But my real concern is that for one of the subjects, sometimes one of the teachers has set work way beyond the level of even a very able Year 1 child. I know this because the National Curriculum programmes of study are freely available to view online, as well as it being pretty obvious anyway. The school claims to teach to the National Curriculum and beyond. But the work set required cognitive skills which are not sufficiently developed in six year olds, however able they are. There is no doubt in my mind that the work was definitely inappropriate. (I would give more details as to how, but it would be too outing, even if I haven't already done so.)

This teacher is not DC's teacher but teaches the parallel class, so in the normal course of events I wouldn't even consider having a conversation with her about it. The first time it happened I emailed DC's teacher, who agreed with me but pointed out that as lessons were on line we all had to be patient etc etc.

I did speak to another parent about this, who also found the work too hard for her child. But I am the only parent-teacher in the class and I can see that the work is wrong for the group.

One lesson last week it happened again. Definitely no foundations had been laid for the activity which was provided, and neither would I expect them to be, as it related to a Year 4+ programme of study. The work only vaguely matches the learning objective, goes well beyond it, and has evidently either been cobbled together by the teacher, or relates to when she taught an older year group. It surprises me because the teachers are timetabled to go into school every few days at the present time and so can surely access relevant teaching materials & worksheets. I contacted DC's teacher again, but no reply this time.

I could prepare better work myself for DC, but I am trying to do my own work so don't have the time. Furthermore, I am paying for this.

I am aware that I am not seeing the full picture of what the teachers are doing in the background. I don't want to do anything that would damage my relationship with any of the teachers at DC's school. But I am confident this is a valid issue and it hasn't been resolved. So frankly the situation is damaging my relationship with them. So rather than an 'AIBU' this is more of a 'What would you do?' Thanks for reading.

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NuffSaidSam · 09/05/2020 13:26

Just email the teacher in question and say 'that was a bit hard for DC, could we have something a bit easier please'.

That's it. Doesn't need to be a huge drama!

If it's work that could be attempted, let DC attempt it and send the result in. Presumably, if every child in the year is struggling she's going to get a mass of completely incorrect work back and realise her error.

KittenVsBox · 09/05/2020 13:27

Meh, the maths DS is receiving is totally below his ability. I take the topic and find something more appropriate to his skill level. I'm sure some in his class are finding it challenging.
Obviously, if they are teaching pythagoras, it doesnt work as well, but most things can be modified up/down to suit, and vaguely link with the work set.

I'd submit it undone, maybe with a note saying far too hard, and spend half an hour doing something at an appropriate level.

Pud2 · 09/05/2020 17:55

Why don’t you just say it’s a bit tricky? Think you might be over-thinking. Remain positive and grateful but just say you child is finding it hard.

You haven’t said which subject but, if it’s maths, I would really recommend The White Rose Maths Hub home lessons. The teaching and activities are all there for you and concepts are explained thoroughly and built on.

Movement05 · 09/05/2020 18:56

Thank you all for your responses, which I appreciate. I agree that in order to maintain a positive relationship with the teacher I should just comment with my parent hat on and say that the work was too hard. The problem is that I'm finding it hard to take off my teacher's hat! And as my parent's hat came from the rather pricey indie shop, even responding with that one on feels hard.

The work might as well have been Pythagoras for all the sense I could make of it to DC, so no, not possible to attempt it.

So to be grateful for this, @Pud2, feels like a tall order and not really me. But I appreciate the heads up re. White Rose. I have seen this mentioned very positively in a few other places, and will try to find the time to take a look.

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NuffSaidSam · 09/05/2020 21:26

Remember as well OP that this isn't 'on you' specifically. Presumably an entire year group of children have been set work so hard they couldn't even attempt it! The other parents will have also complained and probably with less empathy for the teacher. Your voice will be one of many, you don't have to 'solve' this. Just add your voice to the many that will have already contacted the school.

Soontobe60 · 09/05/2020 21:35

So you didn't want to teacher bash, but have, by the back door, done just that.
Maybe the teacher prepping the work has young children at home that need her attention, so they are working at night once they have gone to bed, or at the weekends, or maybe they are also looking after elderly parents who are shielding. You don't know what's going on in their lives at the moment. My teacher colleagues are massively going over and above what's expected of them and yet some parents are still moaning. A coup,e of my private school teachers have been furloughed but the school is still expecting them to provide lessons, with a veiled threat that failing to do so may result in redundancies once schools return as the budget has been blown sky high.
So no, don't give the teacher additional grief by complaining that the work was too hard for your child. As a teacher yourself, maybe you could adapt it and send in what your child has done with a little note about them finding the work provided too difficult.

overtly · 10/05/2020 08:09

If you know that the work set is definitely for years above then send an email. You can build up a little rapport by mentioning you're an ex teacher hence your knowledge. It's a waste of everyones time especially if no foundations are set. I have a DC the same age, also watching lessons online, it would actually have a negative impact on here jumping straight to year 4 work as she would be left feeling frustrated about why she couldn't do it.
For those saying the teacher might be hard pushed for time etc. She's put the time in and made a video it just isn't age appropriate. Surely best to mention it so that next time her time is spent producing something useful that the students can do.

Pud2 · 10/05/2020 08:16

I agree with Overtly. This isn’t to do with teacher workload (I’m a teacher). It sounds like it’s just been pitched wrong and it would be better to mention it so it can be improved for next week. Perhaps say something like ‘DD found this a bit tricky as she is not yet confident with ...’ .

cansu · 10/05/2020 17:41

You are making far too much of this. Send the teacher an email saying that the dc found this too hard. All this stuff about wearing your teacher hat is a bit daft unless you actually do want to make a complaint that the work is the wrong level. If you do want to do this, do it properly rather than email the other teacher, but be prepared for the school to tell you politely to chill out!

MGMidget · 14/05/2020 11:32

We have had some similar situations and I concluded the lesson had been prepared for more than one year. So you may not be getting a tailored lesson but a blanket lesson posted up for several year groups.

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