keeping the whole class in because a few (well-known culprits) will not do as they are told!

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School has only restarted a week ago and already the class has been kept in for three lunchtimes due to the a few well known children not doing as they are told. My dd is angry and I am angry on her behalf. I don't go and see the teacher about it because you have to "respect" the teacher's decisions BUT I am cross because it has no affect on the culprits. You might say "peer presure", but they (the class) are too young to put pressure on the culprits. What can be done? ANYONE OUT THERE HAD TO FACE SIMILAR?

i hate this - you should see teacher and say - whilst i have accepted this punishment before - it is becomming used more frequently and i must say i am unhappy - if you know who is misbehaving them please keep them behind - but don't punish the innocent.

this kind of punishment fucks me off - it did do at school as well - those who cause the trouble don't give a fuck - they would if every fucker else was outside playing and they wern';t

totally agree custardo

custy!

you're needed on the "saga" on in the teenagers topic- in active convos at the moment....

I don't like this s a sanction either. How old are they?

Oooh, I tried doing this once or twice in my probationary teaching year (at my wits end with behaviour!)

I was pulled up on it by more experienced teachers, and they were right to do so. Apart from the unfairness of it all, IT DOESN'T WORK!

I'll confess that if a class doesn't finish the work that they need to in the lesson (and I'm talking about GCSE here) because of misbehaviour of some students I do keep them in for a few minutes to finish the work. I point out the reason why, and applogise to those children who did work.

I keep the miscreants in for longer. This tends not to need to be repeated.

I don't keep the others in as a punishment, just to finish the work we need to cover

(and yes, timetable time really is that tight)

dd is in year 4. thanks for all comments I'm not being unreasonable then - am I?!

It happens quite a lot in our school (secondary) that the whole class are kept in for 10 mins at the end of a lesson.

I never do it - and it really really annoys me. I don't think it works, and you jsut alienate the good kids. Even if a class have been diabolical, if you're paying attention you will notice that at least half of the class have been absolutely fine.

I frequently keep miscreants back, but never an entire class.

I would have a quiet word with the teacher: try not to be confrontational; don't criticise the teacher yourself. But rather point out that your dd is very upset and angry about it, and she feels it is unfair. She feels she is not being rewarded for her good behaviour, and that she is being punished for other people's poor behaviour. Tell her that your dd feels powerless to influence the behaviour of these 'well-known culprits' for the better. Say that your dd can see no reason for not joining in with the misbehaviour if these sanctions continue.

.. Hopefully that would make the teacher think again.

have just asked dd (15yrs)
she said it worked as an effective punishment in yrs 7,8 an 9.But agree on younger children it is less effective.