Unhappy about primary schools re opening

[Bitterglitter]

Is anyone else unhappy about primary schools being re opened as part of the lockdown easing measures?

I keep thinking about the kids who have underlying health conditions that aren't yet diagnosed.

My DS1 (5) was diagnosed with a benign heart murmur in feb this year. It was only picked up because he has a lot of follow up Paediatric appointments because he was premature. I don't even know if it's an issue as far as covid19 goes. But what about all the kids out there with undiagnosed asthma, diabetes etc?

Primary age kids can't and won't maintain social distance. And they will act as super spreaders too. Doesn't matter how well their parents maintain distance if all these kids are mixing it up in schools.

It just seems crazy when so many parents can continue working from home. Am I being hysterical?

It's not rocket science.
if you need the childcare then send them in to be the guinea pigs.
those more concerned with living can keep theirs at home.
We don't know if the second wave will kill the kids rather than adults it happened with Spanish flu.
Send your kids in, your jobs are more important.

As @Hotcuppatea said way up thread just have to f
Go back and accept that life is inherently risky - a woman died last year just walking down the street when a window fell on her. She could have avoided that by hiding under the duvet her whole life but what kind of life is that?
I am a teacher and I despair of the Moscow teachers saying they will not go back until it is 'safe'. There are no guarantees.
I would like to go back tomorrow/not not bothered about 'PPE' hope that the nanny state does not make us wear masks. We are the adults and should be confident and positive to try to get the children out of the anxiety some parents and teachers have inflicted on them. Some might be infected, a minuscule number might suffer complications but that's life.

I don't think it's great for infants but for upper primary it works ok. I also teach 121 with the pupil using the camera so that they can ask questions etc and you can show PowerPoints etc. In Asia lots of kids learn this way-often in small groups.

Send your kids in, your jobs are more important

For some, it will be a case of keeping the roof over their head, or not.

Send your kids in, your jobs are more important

Oh for goodness sake just stop it. ♟
Not everyone can AFFORD to just not work for months and months. Why are people not getting this? if you have enough money to just not work until next year then fcking good for you but that doesnt mean the rest of us have that luxury.
If I dont work I lose my home. Thats hardly going to be good for my kids is it?

@Devlesko Any DC is statistically far more likely to need hospital treatment or sadly die due to an accident AT home than from COVID.

I understand some will have no choice and that the dilemma the government has put them in.
My kids are not going back though. There will probably be a vaccine by the end of the year. The plan seems to be though to just let people die until a vaccine becomes available. Well it is not going to be any of my family.

There will probably be a vaccine by the end of the year thats to guaranteed- by the time its formulated and enough of the population has access to it, its like to be middle of next year. Which means you'll have to stay home until summer of 2021 if you want to eliminate all risk

Cantory apologies if i've missed it, but are you and your family shielding due to being at risk?

*not guaranteed

It should be a choice though based on the risks to your individual households

@Spaghetti123 yep agree DD during this time has both potentially had COVID (awful cough spoke to GP said sounded likely we live in a London Borough that has a lot of cases) chest tightness and trouble breathing but that wasnt as scary as her just before lockdown falling down the stairs, confused sick multiple times and CT scan required before 4 days of concussion. She has had an interesting 2 months

This virus is with us for a longtime who would op suggest. Everybody is very quick to say what they don't want yet nobody offers anyway forward.

@GrimmsFairytales Yes we are. But if we were vulnerable I would do the same. Most of those who die have underlying conditions that put them in the vulnerable group.

Everybody is very quick to say what they don't want yet nobody offers anyway forward.

Apart from all the posters who have reassured the OP that she, or anyone else with worries, don't need to send their child to school.

People are trying to help. It might not be a perfect solution, but it's an option that solves the OPS dilemma.

@rwalker There have been lots of posts on here about how to tackle this, none of it happens. For a starter proper testing so they know how many people have been infected so far would be a good starting point.

Everybody is very quick to say what they don't want yet nobody offers anyway forward

Yep- all the people telling us we are killing our kids by sending them back never give us a solution to keeping our homes do they? they never offer financial advice as to how we can just choose to not work for a year. Never offer any advice as to what to say to the mortgage company when it takes our home due to non payment.

Because they dont really care. They only care about peacocking their perceived moral superiority on a message board.

if you need the childcare then send them in to be the guinea pigs.
those more concerned with living can keep theirs at home.

Its not that cut and dry. I am more interested in living but to live I need money to lbuy food and keep a roof over my families head, to have money I need to work, to be able to work I need to have childcare/the children in school.... the government wont subsidise the population indefinately you know

Are we as a nation really going to be that selfish that we sit back and watch every other country negotiate the minefield that is coming out of lockdown, see what happens, whose approach works best then formulate our plan. What if every country took that same approach, the world would be in this hiatus forever!!! Until the money runs out anyway then who knows where we'll be.....

@AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter That is not what the firm said when interviewed on TV. They said million of doses of a vaccine should be available by the end of the year.

@Devlesko to turn it upside down, if there are no specific health concerns and you keep them at home, you put their mental health at serious risk.
so, in your words, if you don’t care about their mental health, keep them in isolation for the next year.
Parents of vulnerable kids will have to make complex decisions weighing both

I haven't read the whole thread so don't know if this has already been pointed out. But if you read to the end of the article in The Telegraph it clearly states:

As I've posted on another thread, at the end of the article it states:

A Department for Education spokesman said: “Education Secretary Gavin Williamson has not set a date for schools reopening.
“Schools will remain closed, except for children of critical workers and vulnerable children, until the scientific advice indicates it is the right time to reopen and the five tests set out by Government to beat this virus have been met.”

@pennylane83 Our infection is supposed to be a few weeks behind every other country. And what is selfish about seeing what works in other countries? Or do you want us to be the first to do things and be guinea pigs for the rest of the world?

oh, just like they said PPE would be available? yeah, forgive me if I'm a tad skeptical. Even if it is available, its going to take months to vaccinate millions- enough to give herd immunity. Vaccinating everyone isnt going to be done overnight- its going to take a long time

@myself2020 I think parents can judge their own risk to their kids.
I have already said that if schools go back, I am keeping my kids at home and if I have to ringing in sick.
My parents are totally self isolating so we will start to visit them. I have a friend with kids who is also totally self isolating, so if they continue to we will visit them. So my kids get more social interaction without the risk of going to school.
I pulled my kids out a week before schools closed. There were lots of scaremongering comments on here at the time that I would lose my school place, that my kids would quickly become depressed, etc. It was all rubbish.

They definitely think children get it now. No indication they are huge transmitters yet.

It’s economic and societal implications of not going back that gave to be balanced. And I suspect it will be very graduated. No vulnerable and staggered openings and not everyone in for the full week.

Population of UK is 66 million ish. If you manage to vaccinate 100,000 people a day (including weekends) , it would take almost two years to get around to vaccinating everyone.

Now obviously, thats not exact figures as not everyone would be vaccinated but its a snap shot of how long it would practically take to vaccinate that many people.