Catholic Schools - 11+ tests

[anickelstory]

For those areas that still subscribe to 11+ tests, selective admission for state grammar schools....
Does your Catholic primary school allow 11+ tests and facilitation towards it?

No state s hool is allowed to coach tbe11+

State schools don’t prepare for the 11+. Grammar school exams are sat at grammar schools.

No, state schools don’t prepare for 11plus. Not sure what you mean by do they allow them? It’s for the parent to decide and take them. Schools should authorise the absence.

I don't mean like tutor them.
I mean like put them in for it and let them sit it in the school.

If you don't have state grammar schools in your area, you won't know what I mean

JoJo that's a different thing you're talking about.
the 11+ is an exam taken in year 6 where those who pass can apply to a grammar school.
Some areas of the country still have a selective secondary system.

The test itself is held at the child's primary school.

That's why I'm asking if (in an 11+ state grammar area) your archbishop/catholic diocese allows the school to hold the 11+ exam, allows the school to support the 11+ exam.

In YOUR area the 11+ may be held in the primary school, in MY area it is held on a Saturday in the grammar school itself. So the local catholic primary has no need to "support" the 11+ exam-it has nothing to do with them.

I live on the border of a grammar area that takes people from my area. Kids at schools here take the exam on a Saturday as they can't sit it at school. Does the grammar have this option?

In our diocese the archbishop has stated that selective testing should not take place with Catholic schools. However, it would be at the discretion of the Headteacher.

Lol Clearly different areas do it differently. My local authority is 1/3 grammar schools and 2/3 non-selective schools. The exams are taken at the grammar schools and you only take them if you want to.

Ah. That makes sense that other areas do it differently.

Our area does it in the primary school as it's such a lot of children involved.
They can do it at a test centre instead.

Okay, so in your areas there's no connection between any school and the selection process

@Pud2 - yes. That's what we've been told.
And our academy trust has banned them completely.
Apparently our school has been in breach of the agreement by still offering the tests in school.

That is certainly the case in our diocese anickelstory - Catholic primary schools (don’t know about secondary) are not allowed to undertake selective tests.

My DD passed her 11+. She went to catholic primary who do not “host” the tests. She sat the exam at a local grammar school.

I now work at a primary which is part of a multi academy trust. The trust believe that all its primary children should go on to a secondary within the trust so any of our pupils (we are a non faith school) have to go elsewhere to sit the test.

Want to add that the tests in this area are on a school day and the primaries should mark the register with ‘B’ which is ‘educated off site’ but any of our pupils who weren’t in by afternoon registration would have has an unauthorised absence. (The test finished at 11.00 am)

our state grammar 11+ exams are held at the grammars at the weekend. no primary involvement at all

Wow. This is eye opening.

Surely there are only 2 counties where 11+ test is done in school - bucks and Kent?

And I’m gobsmacked and horrified that some MATs don’t sit them so you go to their secondary.

As for the catholic school that makes no sense at all is there are Catholic grammar schools (St Bernards in Berks)

The test itself is held at the child's primary school.

That’s not what happens here-the tests happen at the grammars on a Saturday. The local Catholic secondaries aren’t grammars but have allocated places there if you pass so you can sit the 11+ there instead if you want. Some opt to, as it’s supposed to be quieter and better organised there than at the grammars.

What you are describing seems quite unusual these days.

"Surely there are only 2 counties where 11+ test is done in school - bucks and Kent?"

Lincolnshire?

and Wandsworth (though strictly speaking that's not just 11+ it's also a fairbanding test that can be used by any secondary in the borough)

@Blue

Trafford in Greater Manchester still has a selective system too.