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Why would dd have sat a ks1 maths paper today?

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RicStar · 17/06/2019 21:54

She says she did - but sats were finished in may so am . It was a maths paper only some of her class did it - the rest did something else (she thinks) they were not in the room. Her school are not very keen on us talking to teachers and I am at work anyway so dont see them anyone got any suggestions?

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BrieAndChilli · 17/06/2019 21:59

You’re not in wales are you? One of the maths national tests was online this year and could be taken anytime up to the end of June I think. Some of the class did it one day and some the other as they didn’t have enough devices for them all to do it at the same time

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RicStar · 17/06/2019 22:05

Thanks - am not in Wales and she did it on paper (as far as I could tell - her explanations are not always totally clear). They split the class generally for sats I think as their classroom is small to give each child a bit more space. Oh well all may someday become clear.

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stucknoue · 17/06/2019 22:11

Dd (many years ago) did an extra paper a bit later, only the brightest did it. It was in maths, and following it they went into the g&t programme for the city

modgepodge · 17/06/2019 22:16

Sats in y2 just inform teacher assessment I think...it could be she was very close to a grade borderline and didn't quite make it on actual sats and teacher feels she could have done better, so gave her a previous years one to see how she gets on? As evidence she is at expected standard/greater depth despite not having achieved that in may. That’s the only thing I can think of.

Latenightmarker · 17/06/2019 22:20

If youd school is being moderated at ks1, they might need (or have been asked to get) more evidence that some children are working at age related expectations. And the actual 2019 KS1 Sats tests are only one indicator - teachers can use other evidence.
So for example if your daughter didn't quite answer enough of the fractions questions correctly in the original tests, but was pretty close - if her teacher feels she has now made more progress and can do them, she might have been given a different ks1 paper to allow her to demonstrate her now secure skills

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RicStar · 17/06/2019 22:24

Yes may be some kind of internal / external moderation - it's a big school may be one class did much better / worse than expected and they were checking to see if it was a fluke. Ah well in theory her school are totally relaxed about ks1 sats dont tell us when they are happening etc etc but dd was not pleased they came back!

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MrsKCastle · 17/06/2019 22:24

I agree with modgepodge. It sounds as though, for some reason, the teacher wants to get more evidence to demonstrate your daughter's ability. I find it strange that they have chosen to give her a sats paper, rather than tasks that assess the particular areas they need evidence for though.

mynameisigglepiggle · 17/06/2019 22:32

Why on earth would the school not be keen on you talking to the teachers???

Redpostbox · 17/06/2019 22:58

Perhaps it wasn't SATS. Every term children sit a test to determine how much they have progressed that term/over the whole year.
Teachers have to demonstrate that their pupils are making good progress and it identifies any pupils that need interventions.

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RicStar · 18/06/2019 02:38

We are not allowed to talk to teachers or email etc as it takes up too much time/ adds to their stress too much. You can make an appointment to see your class teacher or slt but obviously that would be for something major. It's a new policy and it's really annoying as a parent as I mostly have minor queries / questions which I cant ask anyone now. I do see that 30 sets of parents with minor queries occasionally could get time consuming but it has made the school - parent relationship much harder / more remote.

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Feenie · 18/06/2019 06:49

Every term children sit a test to determine how much they have progressed that term/over the whole year.

That is in incorrect - the only statutory tests are in Y2 and Y6 in HT5. It's completely down to individual schools as to how they assess the rest of the time.

AnxiousMcAnxiousFace · 18/06/2019 06:55

Is she good at Maths? She probably took an old level 3 one.

orangeicecream · 18/06/2019 07:05

Was it definitely a Sat's paper? There is a new primary maths challenge for under 9s that we did yesterday.

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RicStar · 18/06/2019 07:08

Thanks everyone. I would say she is good at maths yes. I think it was an old paper as there was something on it she didn't recognise the format (which is why she told me about it).

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RicStar · 18/06/2019 07:10

Not definitely sats no - it was in a similar format but in no way was dd more clear than that.

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RicStar · 18/06/2019 07:18

Ah definitely could have been the first primary challenge. Thanks! If I find out I will post back.

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sirfredfredgeorge · 18/06/2019 07:58

Why don't you ask your DD to ask the teacher about the test, and why they did it? It's a good early lesson in getting her to be involved and responsible in her learning.

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RicStar · 18/06/2019 08:03

Sirfred yes that is a very good idea.

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WomanLikeMeLM · 18/06/2019 09:54

I would be writing to Ofsted about not being able to speak to your DD teachers, and tell them exactly why. Absolute rubbish school if the teachers will not communicate with parents.

AustrianSnow · 18/06/2019 20:50

It could be a Rising Stars PUMA test. There’s usually one per term.

fedup21 · 18/06/2019 20:52

What year is she in?

rc22 · 18/06/2019 23:27

Many schools allow parents to see teachers by appointment only. I don't think OFSTED would object unless a school had put a complete ban on parents speaking to teachers. We have an appointment system at our school and, as a teacher, I am more than happy to see a parent by appointment to discuss any issue however small. It's better than talking at length to a parent in the morning when you have 30 kids waiting in the classroom for their school day to begin or being caught at the end of the day when you are trying to ensure the right child goes home with the right grown up!

OP please make an appointment. I am sure your child's teacher will be happy to explain and reassure you.

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