Is the KS2 syllabus different from the 11+ syllabus

[emilycl]

I was looking at sample papers for the 11+ exam. For example: www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/assets/195/CGP11+MathsTest.pdf . On there I saw probability questions. However, I can't see probability mentioned anywhere on the ks2 syllabus at assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/335158/PRIMARY_national_curriculum_-_Mathematics_220714.pdf .

What is the syllabus for 11+ Maths ? I had assumed it would just be tricky questions based on the ks2 syllabus.

The problem is there is no one eleven plus exam. You would need to look specifically at the test you want your child to sit, ideally at past papers.

I'm an 11+ tutor.

In the area where I teach, the 11+ tests at around year 7/8 level and encompasses many areas not covered in KS2 (and some that are covered only in Y6, well after the exam has been sat). I'm in a super-selective county.

I would recommend looking at past papers for your specific area and then identifying gaps in your child's knowledge. There are some topics that will ALWAYS come up on the maths paper and so without adequate knowledge of those areas, it's difficult here to achieve a good result.

I thought the point of the 11+ was that the vast majority can be done with logic skills and reasoning? When I took it it was Maths, English, and verbal and non-verbal reasoning - it’s supposed to find naturally intelligent children rather than tutored children isn’t it?

Our experience was as per the 11+ tutor above. Definitely up to end of yr 6 and beyond was covered even though the test is at the start of year 6.

My dd got a place at a SS grammar and was tutored but the tutoring was just focussed on practising what might come up not learning new concepts.

She was able to pick up the new concepts from being already ahead and naturally finding learning easy if that makes sense.

She has since skipped a school year and similarly has picked up what she missed without being specifically taught it.

If you have never covered probability at all then you will simply fail those questions no matter how clever you are. Won't you?

I would have thought a bright student could answer that question as long as they understood what the word probability meant. I just asked my almost 7 year old and he could answer - he's very good at maths but hasn't been taught probability. I agree though it gives an advantage to students who have been taught the material.