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School reports

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lunalovegoodasgold · 14/07/2007 00:17

What do you think?

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Blu · 14/07/2007 00:30

Ours is a list of everything DS can do cut and psated from what he's suposed to be able to do from the National Curriculum. V tedious...4 pages of info which is totally uninformative.

But I don't care, really - if I want to really know, i can talk to his teacher. which I do.

PotterCandles · 14/07/2007 06:54

Ds1's first reports (Reception) were like Blu's. Ds read part and was most offended "It says I can count an do sums to 20, but I can count to over 100 and do bigger sums than 20!". His Y1 reports have been far more sensible, 1 or 2 sides of A4, a reasonable reflection of what he can do, what his work is like, and his attitude etc at school.

I would liek to know, though, where he stands relative to his peers. Not as in a class ranking, just ahead/in tune/behind sort of thing would do. But they're not going to give us that!

ChipButty · 14/07/2007 06:59

We HAD to put child's position within the year group on our numeracy and literacy reports (eg above/below average; average - not 23rd out of 87 or anything like that). Pop in and just ask the class teacher if your child is keeping up with everything - however, you should have been informed before now if there were any problems.

wheresthehamster · 14/07/2007 09:02

Our KS1 children have all the cut and pasted stuff that most people ignore but for the English, Maths and Science sections there is a "xxxxx is working within/above/below the expected level".

The only other important bit is the class teacher's handwritten paragraph.

At the junior school the reports are all handwritten so even if they are stock words and phrases it feels personal and worth reading.

Secondary school tell it like it is!

Wisteria · 14/07/2007 09:12

I can understand the need for the cut and paste side of it when you have 32 5yr olds to write a comment about, I think the amount of info teachers are expected to provide is totally ridiculous. The paragraph at the end is really the only bit worth reading. As parents you probably should be aware of what they've been doing anyway and like Blu says talk to the teachers regularly (if you can and don't work).
It does make me laugh though as the teachers obviously don't read it through, I lost count of the 'he's' and 'hims' on my daughters report!

cece · 14/07/2007 09:14

My daughters has so many typos in it that it is almost illegible in places. I particulary liked reading about xxxxx (another child's) ICT report. Also the two places where it completely contradicts itself.

I am considering going in to complain as it so shockingly bad (as in the typos not in DD's achievments)

Wisteria · 14/07/2007 09:16

I did complain about the spelling one year, especially as one of the comments was xxx needs to take more care and go back and check her work ooh laugh? we ROFL all night!

GryffindorGHOSTY · 14/07/2007 09:17

You should see the format of the school reports in Australia where I live .... we just had mid year reports and they are brilliant (and I don't mean the content regarding my brilliant DS )
I am tempted to photocopy it to send to the schools I used to work at in the UK so that they can do the same. The format is the same in every school in our state (Victoria).
Tells you where they should be at this point in the year, where they ARE, and where they were in the last report by way of a graph in every learning area.
Then a full A4 personal comment on your child's progress.
Brilliant.
I taught primary school for 10 years and report writing was a strength of mine (although I always needed much proof reading to check my grammar lol) and I will tell you that ALL teachers will have a bank of stock comments that they draw from when writing reports but blatant cut and pasting is bad practice ....

clutteredup · 14/07/2007 09:20

cece that's shocking You definitely should complain there's no excuse. Breach of confidentiality , and what is the teacher teaching if he/sge can't spell. Is it signed by the head? It should have been checked. Definitlely unacceptable.

cece · 14/07/2007 09:20

I am a teacher and I am just so shocked that the teacher and the head have clearly not proof read it! I personally would be embarassed to have my name on the report DD brought home the other day.

clutteredup · 14/07/2007 09:21

ok so i can't spell but i'm not writing a report!

cece · 14/07/2007 09:22

whoops crossed posts.

There is also a sentence that isn't finished, words missing out of a few sentences and in one case completely the wrong word in the middle of a sentence.

clutteredup · 14/07/2007 09:27

definitely totally unacceptable and i hope the head is embarrassed.

wheresthehamster · 14/07/2007 09:32

At KS1 I don't see the point of separate headings and paragraphs for History, Geography, RE, Music etc it's all so generic.
There should be a simple list of topics covered over the year for these subjects and a small box to comment if necessary. E.g. against 'History - Old and New Toys' could be "xxxxx particularly enjoyed doing this".

wheresthehamster · 14/07/2007 09:39

Our reports are all proof read by the head and us TAs skim read for him/her type slip ups and spelling mistakes when we are collating and copying them.

It would be unusual for errors to get through here. As a parent I would point any out though - very unprofessional.

cece · 14/07/2007 09:40

That's what I thought too. Think I will try to see the Head on Monday.

Blu · 14/07/2007 09:42

I roffled at the list of dry technical curriculum-speak, and then in the middle "xxx understands that Barnaby Bear uses a range of different transport methods to travel round the world".

Is there a specific and graded difference between
good progress
very good progress
xcellent progress

or just how optimistic / generous the teacher is feeling?

lljkk · 14/07/2007 09:46

Popping my head above the parapet to say that I found the KS1 SAT results a refreshing change. Just to get something quantitative, for once.

SAT scores gave me an idea of how my child was doing academically compared to peers how other children are responding in the same environment and other children same age, nationally. Also, I liked reading how our school teacher assessments compare to teacher assessment nationally in 2006 (our school is almost all 2a-2c and hardly any Ws or 3s). I think maybe our teachers tend to be conservative in their scoring, because DS had higher Task scores than Teacher Assessment scores; I've spoken to one other parent who said something similar.

I dared to ask 2 other parents if their children got 3s (we know only a few did). One lady was relaxed and honest and said "yes" "everyone" knows that her child has been gifted at reading since reception. Another lady refused to answer, saying "I'm not one of those parents who brags about how their child does!" Which amused me in retrospect, because A) obviously her child DID get a 3, and B) if I asked her "Does your child have excellent social skills?" she probably wouldn't hesitate to answer at length and surely good social skills are more important to success and happiness in life than brains?

(Speaking as a perfect example of why this is obviously true.)

The qualitative stuff in the long written reports just comes as limited -- so much "waffle" and "opinion", any specifics to do mostly with the chemistry of that class and teacher, perhaps none of it novel information (I'm pretty aware what my children are good or bad at, already). Not unhelpful info, just incomplete.

MummyWilliams · 16/07/2007 05:23

My DD just about to finish YR1, got "below average" & 1b for reading & writing, maths & science, but she is one of the youngest in her class d.o.b mid May. I am sure she will catch up eventually.

jennifersofia · 16/07/2007 06:40

Well Blu, on ours we had to put achieved well above expected level, achieved at expected level, just below expected level or well below expected level. How it was decided where the child fell: for foundation subjects (hist, geog, etc) and science and ICT it was teacher assessment (eg. where the teacher felt that the child was based on their work and their performance in class). For literacy and maths, the children were more formally levelled (eg. reading and writing levelled, maths 'test') and of course, there was some teacher judgement too. Does that make sense?

SueW · 16/07/2007 07:15

DD's school has moved to a grading system for reports which marks achievement 1-10 (10 being the top) and effort A-E (A is top).

Do other schools use this system, or is it SATS grades you are referring to?

lljk:"Another lady refused to answer, saying "I'm not one of those parents who brags about how their child does!"

Someone asked me once about DD's grades. I answered that I didn't think it was particularly useful to compare grades. I don't think it is but it appears that the children do as DD seems to know what others in her class got!!

roisin · 16/07/2007 07:39

SueW our school gives a very simple achievement grade for each subject - above, at, or below average.

Then for effort there are 4 levels - poor, standard, good, and excellent.

The parts of the report I am most interested in are the effort grades, the personal section by the teacher, and the comment from the HT. (She reads every single report - 500 children in the school - and the truly personal comments are wonderful.)

SueW · 16/07/2007 07:52

Thanks roisin. School used to have 1-5 (1 top) achievement grades and A-E effort but moved over to the new system this year. More complicated, surely??!

Like you, it's the effort grades I like to see and the head's comments. But I have to admit DD's teacher this year did a fantastically detailed report - all about DD iyswim. Once or twice in the past we have had the 'generic' reports which, IMO, could be covered by an A4 sheet accompanying a simpler report which made one or two sentence personal comments on a child.

Podmog · 16/07/2007 08:19

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dayofftomorrow · 16/07/2007 08:56

There is an advantage of having levels as it is quantifiable none of this "does this well" type thing, DS had this all through primary school a few years back (plus a few excellent comments) but then did average in year 6 sats and was in the second from bottom sets at secondary school. I quite like the grade or level reporting with a few comments added I know exactly how DD is doing