Being kept in at playtime

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In my 5 yr old's Y1 class, they are kept in for a spelling retest during Monday playtime if they got 6 or less out of ten in the test the previous Friday. I feel it is very unfair to essentially punish children for either having parents who haven't bothered to practise with them or who have practised but still haven't done that well.
I have no problem with punishments for poor behaviour but am not happy with this.
What do you think?

I think it is shit they get spelling tests.
I think it is shit they are punished on Monday for something that happened on Friday.
I think it is shit that they are losing playtime.

They are bloody 5yo.

Everything elQuinto said. If you want to complain put it in writing it's more difficult to dismiss that way.

that's rubbish, I would email the teacher/head of KS1.

I would have an absolutely huge problem with this, and I am very far from being a "huggy hippie" parent.

Thank you! I was hoping I wasn't being precious. He's my youngest and his older brother only has to see a word once to spell it, so this hasn't come up before.
When he'd filled in the Look, Cover, Write, Check sheet he said "Mrs X will be so proud of me."
I spoke to her this morning she said it wasn't the whole playtime and it's not a punishment. How is it not a punishment to sit there to be tested while your classmates go out to play?

It’s not ahitvthatvthey get apelingbtests 🙄. It’s shitvthagvtheirboarents don’t helpnthem learn.

However if some of the parents don’t help the teacher has to make up that time, when do you suggest they do it? After school?

Or do you think you should just let them continue being illiterate?

My sister in law never helped her children with school work. The eldest is illiterate. She spent two years on benefits until she was forced (or lose her benefits) to get a job cleaning loos. She is now trying to get pregnant so she can stop work. That is the future this teacher is trying to stop.

What are these children when they should be learning the work with their parents? TV? Playing outside? The kids doing the homework are missing out on that.

*It’s not shit that they get spelling tests 🙄. It’s shit that their parents don’t help them learn.

They are being set up for a life time of ridicule from people who will pick on my post for fat fingers. Except I can correct it, they can’t.

When do you think spelling should be taught? Age 10 when the bad habits have already set in?

I think at this age it's counter-productive. Yes, it may well be extra help but for the children it's denying them playtime and making them feel just that bit crap about their achievements.

and making them feel just that bit crap about their achievements

Doesn’t have to at all, not if it’s done in the right way.

At DS’s school they have lunchtime clubs with advanced lessons for those that look like they’ll be taking the 11+. It’s just extra teaching.

Maybe it would be fairer to ask the children whether they would like the extra coaching or playtime, but at 5 that’s hardly possible!

yes - but this is a 5 year old, in only his second year at school.

Coaching for the 11+ for year 5s and 6s is hardly comparable.

Spelling tests are a waste of time. They learn a few words which are then forgotten while they learn a few more.

Losing the ability to run around and burn off some energy isn't exactly conducive to being able to sit still focus and try again. Its unnecessary stress fir the kids who need to run around. And fir the teacher whis stuck with a bunch of even more fidgety kids the rest of the day.

Hardly the.kids fault they dont have time or have no one who will help them either

RiverTam My point is when do you think the missed work should be made up? Or you think it should just be skipped?

Those children are simply getting their playtime at home later because their parents can’t be bothered. Good for the teacher for caring more than the parents I say.

GerryblewuptheER That’s not true, only if you don’t stick to Miller’s rule and don’t repeat and rehearse regularly.

You’re view is stuck in the 70s when grammar and spelling all went to pot and they brought in colloquial spelling 🙄 so those from areas with broad accents wouldn’t be disadvantaged. The education system is still recovering.

Yes because on top of the stacks of homework primary age kids are bringing home now , and daily reading, projects, and learning songs for Easter assemblies, they have time to redo last September's spelling tests too.

GerryblewuptheER Oh well let them all be illiterate then! Blame the teachers.

No ones illiterate cos they didnt do a few spelling tests at break time ffs.

Think theres a bit more to it than that. More than keeping a fidgety 6 year old in at break time will fix!

Dds school doesn't do spelling tests until they are a little older. At this stage they are taught to write it as they say it so often it is wrong but they correct it later on.

@slidepuzzle my son had practised them. They were a mixture of 5 tricky words and 5 that covered 3 different "i" sounds, which they had 4 evenings to learn.
How is a retest extra help? Surely it's just compounding the feeling of failing?

Good for the teacher for caring more than the parents I say.

If the teacher cared more than the parents , perhaps she should have practiced the spellings in class before the test rather than leaving it up to the parents. Perhaps she should have set spelling tests that were differentiated for her pupils rather than a one size fits all approach. Perhaps she should read up about the value of play and plan her lesson time better so that valuable playtime does not get lost.

How is a retest extra help? Surely it's just compounding the feeling of failing?

It's like anything isn't it. Having the "right answer" isn't helpful if you dont know how you got there. And what use is learning to spell a word if you cant say it, hear the sounds in it, use it correctly in a sentence etc

Sounds like utter bullshit to me. He’s five.

Rubbish!! my son is year 6 has profound problems with his spelling due to the fact he’s dyslexic, in year one it was undiagnosed I absolutely would not have wanted his love for learning to be destroyed before it had really started.

His future will include spell check and touch typing but he is highly literate and his reading age matches his chronological age.

There is no need to keep 5 year olds in at playtime they need to be outside moving around and learning how to socialise and be a good friend/person.

Thanks everyone.