DD finding Year 1 phonics boring

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DD is in year 1 and quite likes some things about school but she is getting bored with all the repetition in phonics.
She passed a practice Y1 phonics screening test at the end of reception and has recently started reading chapter books.
From what she says, it seems like they do phonics every day and it’s all too easy for her.
Would it be reasonable to ask the teacher whether she could do something else instead? I don’t want to be demanding but I just can’t see that it’s a good use of her time and it’s putting her off school.
Any thoughts/advice?

I do!

War and far rhyme in your world

Na, far has an 'eh' sound in the middle.

The thing is of course is that I am talking about an accent of a different language. The language being Scots and the accent having a strong influence from Norn so clearly the phonic rules are different. Just think of the mess most English speakers make of 'chorizo' or 'llama' because they don't know the phonics of Spanish. It's the same principle, English phonics don't work in Scotland (or indeed in parts of England).

@CountFosco I’m from NI and was also reading Norestformrz’s list with incredulity - most of those words sound completely different in my accent! I’m 31 and we didn’t learn phonics at school so no idea how they’d be dealt with in a NI context.

They'd be dealt with in the same way as in any accent. The spoken sounds are mapped onto the spelling just as happened when words were first written.

My sons reception teacher was from NI and the phonics scheme didnt fit her accent at all.

But you are ignoring that the people who wrote the language are not necessarily those who spoke it.

So e.g. when maps were drawn of the place I grew up by 'educated' men from the south they wrote 'holm' for places pronounced home and ham. Or the famous apostrophy in Scots to indicate the 'dropped' letter that was never actually dropped.

That's untrue you're confusing the standardisation of spelling that took place centuries later with the origins of written language. It doesn't change the process say the word and match it to the written representation in whatever accent you speak it's how phonics works

"Holm" or "Holme" is the Norse spelling that Existed in Scotland and Northern England before there was standard English

Grasspigeon your sons teacher should teach to the accent of the children she teaches not her own. Phonics fits all accents but it relies on the teacher knowing the relationship between spoken and written language.

Phonics is great, at least for me, who has English as a second language.
I learned it with my ds, who had decoding age of mid teen when he was 4. He never was bored with phonics lessons at school, even though he was able to read any words in front of him at starting school. He has perfect spelling and perfect grammar as well.
Now in yr6, he uses the phonics knowledge he learned in Ks1 to figure out how to pronounce or spell words. Having secure knowledge of phonics is vital, even for the child who can read/decode easily.

Accents aside, is there a reference list for this you use Mrz? DS2’s school doesn’t do a lot of phonics (not in England) and the code tables I have seen don’t have that many spellings on - am guessing they just put the most common ones on?

Have you seen the phonics international ones Bkwrm? They're pretty thorough. You can Google their website and download various charts free.

I like https://www.phonicbooks.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/complex-phonic-code.pdf for everything on one page https://www.phonicbooks.co.uk/advice-and-resources/advice-and-resources-for-teachers/phonic-code-table/

Thanks both - mrz’s one does
look like a good one page summary, I’ll have to print that one off for me. Even it is missing a few of the list of /or/ spellings above though. Why did we have to be invaded so often? (light hearted)