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Maths homework - what age and stage would you say this is for?

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slightlywarmer · 26/01/2019 10:16

DC has been given this angles worksheet for his top set Year 7 homework but he covered it a long time ago at primary where he was also top-set at maths.

Just wondering what year it's normally covered in at primary?

Maths homework - what age and stage would you say this is for?
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AnotherOriginalUsername · 26/01/2019 18:27

BUT! They haven’t got proper notation which would be my main complaint about this hw!

Or any instructions apparently!

JockTamsonsBairns · 27/01/2019 00:06

There was always going to be a MNer whose kid did this in Y2 wasn't there? Grin

April2020mom · 27/01/2019 05:32

Perhaps the teacher is trying to see if the children will be able to keep up with the class or not? It might be a revision exercise assigned before they are tackling more difficult topics (hopefully anyway).
It’s been years since I’ve left school so I don’t feel comfortable saying anything other than primary school kids are expected to be able to do that.
What set is your son in? Is he being challenged or not? If you have any other questions I would talk with the teacher tomorrow morning.

user789653241 · 27/01/2019 07:27

I think it is very important basic to cover and make sure children are able to figure out easily, before introducing congruent angles, angle relationships with parallel lines and transversal, figuring out angles using equations, etc.
If it doesn't go any further than this, I would be disappointed as a work for top set yr7, but otherwise, I would wait and see.

abcriskringle · 27/01/2019 07:43

See, the issue is that year 7 is very much about consolidating ks2 and ensuring everyone has the same foundation to move forward. Just because one child is bright, went to a good primary school and has parents who help to reinforce learning at home, doesn't mean they all do!

Parents often complain that year 7 is "too easy" (I teach English) then in year 8 they start panicking when their child isn't getting perfect assessment scores. Also, sets have a huge range of ability with a great deal of over-lapping. Not everything can be the higher end of challenging as a lot of pupils would be left behind.

Finally, homeworks need to be easy enough for pupils to tackle by themselves to save an onslaught of calls/emails from parents who don't understand how they are meant to do it.

Honestly, it's a bloody minefield. Teachers try their best but there is so much to do and so many different people to please that it becomes impossible. If this is too easy for your child then that's great - homework is over quickly and more free time for them. It's no comment whatsoever on the teacher or teaching standards at the school.

fedup2017 · 27/01/2019 07:58

I'd be more cheesed off that the right angle triangles weren't marked correctly....

But anyways it's probably "spiral" learning isn't it.... So using the homework to embed that 2 angles on a straight line add up to 180.... Then likely in class moving onto more difficult angle problems based on this, or that you can use that fact to then go onto work out the other angles in a right angle triangle.

I think it's very difficult (especially in something like maths) to take on piece of homework and then say that the teacher isn't pushing a top set maths class. DS is good at maths and in top set year 7.... Sometimes the homework is basic and he whips through it. However he had some relatively easy (I thought ) fraction questions this week and he needed some practice as obviously he didn't fully understand it. After practice he now understands it and (because he's in top set) has quickly moved into more complicated problems.

If all the work is easy fair enough but you have to trust the teacher

Calledyoulastnightfromglasgow · 27/01/2019 07:59

My child did this in pre-school

WinterHeatWave · 27/01/2019 08:18

fedup how do you know they are right angles? I reckon they are 87.5°.....

Dermymc · 27/01/2019 08:29

It's a very basic sheet where each problem is the same. The triangles are irrelevant. Unless the point of the homework is to recognise the straight lines which add up to 180 degrees.

I would use something similar with bottom set year 7.

user789653241 · 27/01/2019 08:55

Calledyoulastnightfromglasgow, good for you! Hope she/he has used this vital knowledge to figure out more complex angle problems later. There are many interesting questions your child can answer using this knowledge in UKMT questions and other maths sites.

Lougle · 27/01/2019 20:56

Well for DD2, admittedly not top set, it was a useful reminder that if the angle she was shown was on a straight line and was the unequal angle of an isoceles triangle, then to work out the angle she was asked for she had to do the sum of (180°- given angle)/2 because the remaining angles were equal. So it helped her to have that sort of homework.

steppemum · 27/01/2019 21:02

I do this for my kids doing 11+ prep in year 5.
Most have vaguely coverd it, but not properly, they don't really know that angle son a straight line =180 or angles in a triangle = 180. They may have covered it, but not in depth.
So I would say it is year 6.

But I teach that you cannot make assumptions, so unless it tells you that the triangles are right angle or iscoseles, then you cannot assume.
If they are right angle/equilateral/isosceles, then you can work out all angles.

Allusernamestakenbutthis · 28/01/2019 19:00

Yr 5? But I think they go over everything again in yr 7, at least they are doing that in my DS school.

cantkeepawayforever · 28/01/2019 22:03

Year 5

Nationa Curriculum for Y5 says:

"identify:
angles at a point and 1 whole turn (total 360°)
angles at a point on a straight line and half a turn (total 180°)"

and explicitly refers to missing angles n the non-statutory guidance.

IME secondaries underestimate hugely what is covered at primary ... and then blame the primaries when students underperform in Y7 relative to their end of Y6 scores (part of a project here where secondary teachers come to visit primaries to see children's books, our teaching etc - uniform amazement at the level we teach to compared with the level they start teaching Y7 at. Yes, there is a long holiday and a transition and children from different schools but it is interesting how successful adjusting Y7 SoW to reflect the true levels reached at the end of primary have been, after a short run-in at the beginning of Y7 for transition...)

user789653241 · 29/01/2019 10:22

I do agree with cantkeepaway actually, because it does even happen within a same school.
Once I questioned about my ds's target that he can already do easily. The teacher's answer was simply, "we haven't covered it yet" nothing to do with individual child's ability.

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