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'lucid cops' test result -what could they mean?

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greenelephantscarf · 12/01/2019 17:25

dc (9year old, year 4) was tested at school because there were concerns about spelling/attention span.

Lucid CoPS was used.
dc scored in the 78th-95th percentile in auditory sequential memory, phonic decoding and reading, which is an attainment test involving a cloze reading task.
dc scored below the 50th percentile in the following areas; visual spatial memory(31st percentile), phonological processing(44th percentile), reading words out of context (49th percentile), spelling single words(44th percentile) and again; non verbal intelligence (34th percentile).

can you help me understand the result?

dc struggles with writing/spelling, attention. seems 'zone out' when things get hard work.

do we need to do something? like seeing a dyslexia specialist.

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greenelephantscarf · 12/01/2019 19:09

bumping

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Changemyname18 · 13/01/2019 11:28

Whoever tested him and provided you with the results is the only person really that can explain them to you. I don't recognise the name of the test as one used on my then similar age DS as part of a dyslexia assessment. Our first indicator of DS dyslexia was poor spelling in relation to other abilities at this age

greenelephantscarf · 13/01/2019 12:02

thank you
unfortunately school only gave the test results, nothing further.
other tests that were done dc score well above age, verbal reasoning & recall age 15

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Changemyname18 · 13/01/2019 16:00

You need to go back and ask school more questions. Along the lines of" please can you help me interpret the results as they seem inconsistent' you need to ask school whether as a result if this any more follow up will happen, or if. I assumed you knew and consented that your son was going to be tested. Badger the SENCO, they really should have provided you with explanations and a plan of action/conclusion following this test

Changemyname18 · 13/01/2019 16:00

Does sound like dyslexia is a possibility though

greenelephantscarf · 13/01/2019 16:29

thanks, the teacher (not the one doing the tests) said it's can't be dyslexia as dc writes very phonetically. but I don't know much about dyslexia tbh.
sometimes dc writes letters as mirror image.

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colditz · 13/01/2019 16:34

Dyslexic people usually do write very phonetically, is a fucking feature of dyslexia! Get him to spell laugh!

Teachers are not particularly trained to deal with dyslexia, or indeed any other unusual learning style, they are trained to teach average children, of average intelligence and behaviour, who will learn in an average way. You may end up doing whet I had to do with my son's primary teachers, and training them to teach him

Norestformrz · 13/01/2019 16:44

COPs assesses
• Phonological awareness
• Phoneme discrimination
• Auditory short-term memory
• Visual short-term memory
• Visual and verbal sequencing
The percentile rankings you've been given fall within the average range except for visual spatial memory which is slightly below

Norestformrz · 13/01/2019 16:45

"Dyslexic people usually do write very phonetically, is a fucking feature of dyslexia! " no it isn't. Children and adults with dyslexia have poor phonological skills so don't write phonetically.

Norestformrz · 13/01/2019 16:47

"indeed any other unusual learning style" you do know that learning styles have been debunked?

AllMYSmellySocks · 13/01/2019 22:23

I am not an expert in interpreting these test results but they are not significantly below average. Even the lowest score (34%) would only just be in the bottom third. For example in an average class there would be 9-10 children who score around this range or lower.

Norestformrz · 14/01/2019 05:07

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'lucid cops' test result -what could they mean?
drspouse · 15/01/2019 09:37

Surely with high phonic decoding and low visual spatial skills dyslexia is not a concern, rather the opposite (reading is OK but other skills aren't)?

drspouse · 15/01/2019 09:37

(But 31st centile isn't that low)

Norestformrz · 15/01/2019 19:04

The threshold for risk on COPs is the 5th percentile or below.

sproutlove · 17/01/2019 00:28

'dc scored in the 78th-95th percentile in auditory sequential memory, phonic decoding and reading, which is an attainment test involving a cloze reading task.'

These scores are within the high average to above average range. 95th centile is well above average.

'dc scored below the 50th percentile in the following areas; visual spatial memory(31st percentile), phonological processing(44th percentile), reading words out of context (49th percentile), spelling single words(44th percentile) and again; non verbal intelligence (34th percentile). '

All these scores are within the average range.

greenelephantscarf · 17/01/2019 07:09

thank you!

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