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Where are the confidentiality lines in this, what is reasonable to expect?

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steppemum · 02/11/2018 11:35

Dd is 10 and in last year of primary. On the one hand she is bright, chatty, clever, does really well in class etc.
On the other hand she has a very anxious underside, which not many people see. It has come out a few times in friendship issues.

Her social skills are not nearly as good as they first appear, and she often gets it wrong with friendships, makes poor choices.

She has a great class teacher this year who has been really on the ball.
In July, in the middle of a bad friendship patch (she had fallen out with he two closest friends and couldn't seem to sort it) she told be she wanted to die, because of the friendship problems at school.

It was end of term, I know head well, and she happened to say to me - how are you? That morning and I was quite emotional and told her what dd had said. At the beginning of this term, dd's class teacher and head have put a few things in pace to support her, and are aware of this anxious undercurrent.

I know dd has spoken to the HLTA who does a lot of support of vulnerable kids.

All has seemed to be going well, until yesterday. Dd had massive OTT melt down over a small issue, completely beyond normal. As part of it she was telling me she wanted to jump out of her bedroom window, and kill herself.
Now dd IS a drama llama, but these comments are not in her usual dramatic way, they are more like, bursting out of a sad hurting art of her.

She calmed down, we had cuddles etc and talked. She says there is something worrying her. She won't tell me what it is. She says she has told someone (an adult she trusts) at school, and it is private and she doesn't want me to know. This morning we talked again, and she said the same.
I have gently asked if this is friends again? No. Is it about me or Daddy, and that is why she doesn't want us to know? No. Is someone hurting her? No.

I don't know who she has told at school, as she made it clear it wasn't her class teacher of the HLTA she had spent time talking to, I don't know of another teacher/TA she would have told.

Obviously as her mum I am really worried about what is causing her so much distress. I am at a loss as to what to do next. I don;t think school would tell me what she said, but is it unreasonable to ask them to talk to her about telling me? I just feel that something massive could be sitting here, that we could be working towards a solution, and instead I am sitting here in the dark, wondering how serious it is and if she will go act on what she is saying.

I work with kids, and in our safeguarding training it is emphasized again and again that we don't promise secrecy, but that there is space for a kid to say something without parents automatically being told, and we don't feed back everything to parents. The way forward is to suggest that the child tells the parent themselves.

Would it be unreasonable to approach the school and ask about that?
Any other suggestions about how to move forward greatly appreciated. School suggested TAMHS and I sort of said, hmm, not yet, but now I think we should. I am just so disillusioned by other peoples experiences of them! I know at the moment dd would be quite anti.

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steppemum · 02/11/2018 19:19

wow, sorry, didn't realise hwo long it was.
Anyone got any advice?

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MM5 · 03/11/2018 07:26

Ask to speak to the HT and agree to the referral. Referrals can sometimes take time.

Explain to the HT what she has said. It really may be something minor. But, in her highly anxious state, she is making it bigger than it is and the school is not really understanding how big she is making it in her head.

Like I said.... speak to HT and agree to referral.

nicebitofquiche · 03/11/2018 07:30

I agree with the speak to Ht and tell her what your dd has said about wanting to kill herself. Also accept the referral. It will probably be a good while before you're seen and who knows what will happen before then.

Bluewidow · 03/11/2018 07:34

I have a son that says all these things so I sympathise. Are you sure she's spoken to an adult about this or a friend? If it's an adult then it's good that she has confided in someone and i would encourage her to keep doing so if she feels it has helped her. Reassure her that she can tell you anything no matter what and you won't judge. Take the cahms referall as if she's told one person then it may encourage her to open up
To them.

Lonecatwithkitten · 03/11/2018 07:42

Through a situation with my DD I had this conversation about this with school. What DD was telling the staff was confidential unless it represented a safeguarding issue. Even when there were safeguarding issues they actually obtained DD's consent before I was told.
However, a threat to take your own life is a safeguarding concern and you should discuss this with school.

steppemum · 04/11/2018 22:29

Thanks everyone,
sorry I wasn't back sooner, it has been a busy weekend.

So i will go in and talk to the HT tomorrow morning if she is around.

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Witchend · 05/11/2018 20:00

Just to say I have a dd who is similar.

It is worrying, but when dd did do a similar "not telling you" to me it turned out to be something quite minor. I was so relieved that I nearly laughed because she'd been so dramatic over it. I'm not saying what it was but it was akin to "I want to shave my legs" type level.

steppemum · 06/11/2018 10:37

Witchend - I did wonder about that, as there isn't anything particularly stressful going on.
I have also wondered if it is hormonal, and at times she just feels overwhelmed with emotion/sadness and can't actually pin point why.

Head was amazing, and is going to start the referral process. Also going to get the HLTA to have a session with her this week (she has had a couple of sessions with her already)

dd is now bouncing around happy as Larry. It is hard to tell how superficial that is at the moment.

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