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Has anyones child been disapplied from SATS?

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Rainbowtrees · 28/08/2018 09:50

My DD is starting year 6 next week.
DD has multiple special needs such as ASD, adhd and dyslexia. DD is nearly two years behind in both reading and writing and almost a year behind in maths. Her levels were assessed at the end of the spring term - DD barely attended the summer term due to illness so she probably fell further behind (prior to being unwell had very good attendance).
Is it really worth a child who is so far behind and unlikely to be able to catch up sitting the year 6 SATs?

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bookmum08 · 28/08/2018 09:54

Schools don't have to enter a child for Sats. I think if they know a child can't do them (due to educational special needs) they don't enter them. The point of sats is to make their place on the league tables look good. They are mostly pointless to the child.

Haskell · 28/08/2018 10:19

Could you arrange a meeting with the senco early in term?
Children are disapplied for all sorts of reasons, but being two years behind isn't necessarily a reason to so that.
She might have a reader or an amenuensis to access the tests, but that needs to become her usual way of working during the year so that she's used to it come next May.

Rainbowtrees · 28/08/2018 10:24

Thanks for the replies.

DD has had a 1-1 for a few years and also has a laptop for writing so already has alternative ways of working. I will speak to the SENCO.
I think my main concern is that the teachers are so focused on SATs that if DD doesn’t take part they won’t push her forward if they know she’s not taking part.

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fairgame84 · 28/08/2018 10:27

I thought DS would be disapplied but he wasn't.

He is 4 years behind, ASD and attends a special school. He had extra time and a scribe etc. He didn't reach expected standard in any of the tests. I'm not sure why they entered him but they will have had their reasons.

Haskell · 28/08/2018 10:39

Well, someone that is one year behind in maths will still score, so would still be entered unless there was something else going on.
Definitely meet with the senco, to allay your fears of her being left to bumble along this year- hopefully it will reassure you about how she will be supported. It is also important to open dialogue about the next school- applications will need to be in by end of October. Does she have an EHC? Will you be able to specify which school she can get into for Y7? The senco is likely to know which secondary schools can support her needs best, but that conversation needs to happen soon, so there's time to visit the schools, and apply in time.

Charmatt · 28/08/2018 15:28

Children don't have to sit SATs if they are deemed not to be at an appropriate level to do so. My son didn't sit them, though he did sit in the same room and did a test to assess his level of attainment at that point for each area of the tests.

However, those who say those who don't sit the tests don't count in the results are wrong. The results for schools state what percentage achieved the expected standard, so the missing percentage also contains any children who didn't sit the tests.

My son was the 3% of his year group that was identified as not achieving the right level (as it was in those days), but the school were very supportive and the headteacher was keen not to set him up to fail.

WorriedMumUpset · 28/08/2018 15:47

Agree with the PP. Children don't have to be entered for SATS but their results (basically 0) still count for the schools overall score.

spanieleyes · 28/08/2018 16:39

Although the tests are often considered a Year 6 test, in fact they are a test of the KS2 curriculum. so, if your child has been working on the KS2 curriculum ( which they will have been if they are "only" two years behind) then they should be sitting them.
The school COULD still disapply if they said your child was working below the level of the tests ( ie at Yr 2 level) However, they will probably look at the progress scores from Yr 2 when making the decision!

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