11+ and SATS this year

[PamsterWheel]

If your son/daughter took the 11+ for Sept intake of this year how did they do in their SATS?

Did you find that your child scored over 110 in all categories if they passed their 11+ ?

I don't live in a grammar school area and my DD 'passed' her SATS but not by much. No ulterior motive, not anti grammar (went to.one myself) just curious as to whether the tests were comparable.

My DS sat for one of the London super-selectives and didn't get a place (although his ranking was close). His SATs scores were 120 in Maths, 120 in SPAG, 115 in Reading and greater depth in writing.

Was this a private school? They set their own tests don't they?

I was thinking more along the lines of the 11+ sat by people wishing to go to state school.

Very high SATS scores for your son. The sheer number of children applying for London super selectives makes it very difficult to get a place.

My DS scored
Maths 116
Reading 110
SPAG 118

He didn’t get into one of our super selective grammars - a substantial amount of their pupils are from out of county.

My DS sat for The Latymer. place not offered ( he was 508 )
SATs scores
120 in Maths,
118in SPAG,
120 in Reading,
greater depth in writing.

DS missed the 11+ by a few marks. His SATs scores were 120 in maths, and 107 & 108 in the other two. I guess that seems to match with his success in the maths part of 11+ but missing the overall pass mark because of the verbal reasoning element.

Pamster - no, it wasn't a private school. It was a state grammar (Latymer - like another poster).

Daughter got 370 in the Kent test ( out of 420 , 123 in maths, 129 in reasoning and 118 in English ) so a good pass but missed a super selective (we are OOC) In SATs she got 113 in Maths, 117 in SPAG and 120 for reading.

Sorry should say going to a grammar school in September. 4 from her class going (out of 15). I think they all got greater depth I across the board except one girl who scraped by in the 11+ maths and "passed" the maths part of the SATs ( so not a maths person)

So they sound pretty on par with each other do you think?

DD got 120,120,114 and passed grammar school.

Mine got 112,112 and 114. She got into the grammar, we don't know the score for the 11+ they don't say, it's just in or out

DD got into Tiffin Girls (superselective), no idea where she was ranked as they don't tell children who got in only those on the waiting list. She got 120, 120, 116 (Maths) and greater depth in writing.

120, 114, 118, GD in writing. Passed for fully selective county (so not super-selective), although has decided to go to local comp.

118/120/120. Didn't get in to super-selective grammar (QE), did get in to academic Private (CLS)

North Warwickshire - 213 at 11+ and is going to grammar

SATs - Maths 104, Reading 110, GPS 100

Less correlation than others listed here I think, but she did no additional work for SATs at all and school didn't do extra classes etc.

Mine is a very similar picture to trinity blue , no scores above 110 and DC passed 11+ for selective Indy. (Not London) Indy did the VR and NVR as well as maths and English and emphasise looking for potential, which state grammars do not. This helped my DC enormously as mild dyslexia, slower processing speed was diagnosed 2 years ago. I now live in dread as I hear of all these 110+ SATS scores as to how my DC will fair nationally at GCSE and beyond, as the prescriptive nature of SATS did not reflect their true ability. I realise this is skewed by the fact I am looking at mumsnet kids though!

The results have unsettled me. Although my child did get over 110 in all of them, she only just did. She had got 120 in all in the mocks. She's not in the slightest bothered and thinks they don't matter. But to me It shows the difference a day can make. That is really scary when you think that GCSEs are all exam based now.

Well, your daughter is right! They don't matter, or at least they only matter to the school.

Twins, both passed 11 plus exams, got 120 x 2 each, then 1 got 118 and the other 115.

I was told my son had reached the required standard for Sutton grammar school after the 2nd test, but he was not offered a place, is on waiting list, a place is unlikely I would have thought ( competition is huge).
He got 113 in maths, 114 in reading, 113 in writing, Thought he’d do better at maths as it’s his strongest subject.

It this is not the be all and end all. School will only put into sets after October, based not on ly on SATs but also on performance during previous half term.

SE area generally 11+ area no SS

Dd missed 11+ literally by 1 point
Refused any appeal as happy with comp choice (outstanding school)

SATS
109 reading, 109 Spag 107 maths.

For me, she has literally just missed on both and therefore the measurement seems reasonably accurate.

I have a younger son who is thriving on the new curriculum, who has much better teachers at a different school and will undoubtedly thrash his 11+
He is already greater depth every year - yr3 so all his education is the new curriculum.
Our yr 6 got a raw deal if you ask me.

There is a similar thread on the 11+ boards, so I wonder if you are collecting data to back your argument

Both of my DDs got into to GS, one is just finishing Y7 and one starts in September. They got in to a regular (not super selective) from OOC.

DD1 got 120,120, 119 and a high 11+
DD2 got 118, 115, 110 and a middle 11+

Very proud of both of them. One caveat I would add though DD1 has only had 'developing or secure' throughout the year for Maths since she would be expecting to get an 8/9 in GCSE. After always getting exceeding that can be a bit de-moralising. I suspect DD2 will look, on paper, to be doing better based on the slightly lower SATs.

@dungandbother why a raw deal?

I'm not on 11+ boards

I expect there are hundreds of people who wonder if the two are comparable. I am not an original thinker 😁