Confused about ks2 sats vs teacher assessment vs report?

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Lots of people are posting their dc sats and teacher assessments online and I've noticed that a lot of schools give greater depth for reading, maths, grammar and science?? I thought greater depth was only for writing?
So now I'm confused as dc results in the end of year report were very good, all above the expected level. Ks2 sats results also very good, all well above 110. Teacher assessment, only writing was greater depth? How are some schools allowed to give greater depth in maths, reading, grammar and science and others are not? In the sheet I've received for teacher assessment (together with sats results) mentions the codes they use to make their assessment, they also have a little "note" that says "not all results are valid for all areas of learning" and the codes are: GDS, EXS, WTS, HNM, PKG, PKE, PKF, BLW. In front of WTS they wrote (writing only) and this is the only code that says "writing only"? I'm very confused with all this? How can a child who is well above expected level not get greater depth in one school, but in another it can? Surely the rules should be the same for all schools?
Any teachers, or anyone can explain this please?

Officially they can only be "expected" for reading , grammar and maths but many schools will add their own "greater depth" level for those achieving over 110. Everyone knows over 110 is greater depth, the official print out can't show it but the report can!

The boundaries for GD have not been set. So schools are only officially allowed to put GD for teacher assessment, not test results.

But I am talking about teacher assessment, the ones schools are require to submit after sats are done (not the reports), so sats and teacher assessment can be compared I guess

Again, schools can only officially record teacher assessment as expected, not greater depth but can internally use greater depth if they want!

spanieleyes thank you, this is so confusing

For SATs, the rules are the same; only the teacher assessment for writing goes to a possible Greater Depth. I think it gets a bit muddied because the data I've seen for school information on SATs has a column for greater depth for Maths, SPAG and Reading, then one for the three combined, which is presumably where the whole 110= greater depth for those comes from. DS2's Head of School told him his SATs results were at greater depth.

Obviously end of year reports are a different kettle of fish.

I'm confused too.

Is the SATs results the teacher assessment or the test scores. Does the teacher assessment take into account the test results.

There wasn't an option for anything other than achieved standard or didn't achieve standard on our reports test results.

The teacher assessment had loads of 3 letter codes.

Teacher assessments need to be submitted before schools receive sats results, so it's not based on that. I'm just confused because other schools use exactly the same "teacher assessment sheet" as our school but gave greater depth, ours didn't. But as spanieleyes said, it's up to the school. Officially when they submit results, greater depth can only be given to writing, but schools can then report to parents however they like, which makes sense, because my dc was always well above the expected level and was expected to get 110+, therefore wouldn't make sense to be just "at the expected level", but that's the only option schools have. In dc report, which we received weeks ago, he got above expected levels in everything... wow this really is confusing, levels were less confusing lol

It's not clear Is it. We got expected in everything or achieved the standard which I am thrilled about as he has really struggled but I'm not sure I understood what is the 'result'

It's a nightmare! Apparently getting rid of levels was meant to make things clearer!

When you enter your teacher assessment (as a teacher) you can award WTS, EXS and GDS for writing only. The only options for reading and science are EXS or HNM (has not met).

The PKF levels etc refer to children working below WTS standard for writing. GDS does not exist for reading and science at ks2. If your child scored over 110 scaled score then they will most likely be classed as achieving a ‘high score’ - basically working at a greater depth than your ‘average’ Year 6.

Hopefully that helps!

Excitablemuch thank you for your reply, I wish schools explained it like you did!