Starting school gifted?

[BabiesDontNeedDaddies]

I got told that to be classed as gifted going in to reception all the kid has to be able to do is read a simple sentence, ie "a cat sat on a mat", and do simple addition/subtraction, like 7+2 or 4-3. That seems quite basic to me for gifted. Is that right? Or is it like a local thing since I don't live in an affluent area

Gifted is totally different to clever or bright. I'm not sure what the point of the post is but a gifted child can excel in some areas and struggle hugely in others. Socially it can also be a struggle.

So basically my kid might have friends same as him or he might be with literally no one. Great

If your kid enjoys playing with other kids, he’ll be fine. None of them are going to be discussing the finer points of US foreign policy at this stage. Teachers will differentiate for brighter/more advanced students—there is a very wide range of ability in reception. If you are really concerned, you could try looking at selective preps as well.

Friendships are not based on reading abilities. Or mathematical capabilities.

And your child needs to learn to get along with and make friends with different kinds of children. It is a life skill.

I feel like you have posted before. Have you? Is yours the autistic son who is very academically bright? Something about the posting style rings a bell. You had a lot of helpful suggestions on your last thread.

Can people stop deliberately twisting what I've said. It's just stupid

No one is twisting what you are saying. But throwaway one liners are not helpful. (Hence my referral to an older thread). You said specifically that you worried that he wouldn’t have people to befriend. And we are pointing out that’s not true. My son is in Y1 now and does Y3/4 material. He has loads of friends despite being a non sporty geeky musical boy. He’s kind sensitive and friendly and that’s what counts. It is the same in Reception.

There will be a range even among gifted children. How will we know what the kids in your son’s class will be like? There might not be any other gifted child. How does it remotely matter?!

Ok then maybe you specifically aren't doing it on purpose but you still need to stop

Stop what?! This is a most baffling thread.

We are trying to be helpful and setting expectations.

I have this weird sense of deja vu.

I’m not really sure what you want people to say??? “Yes 1/3 of every class will have bright and gifted children who will all want to be friends with your child”???
Who the fuck knows. Every class, every school and every child is different. Friendship is based on lots of different things not just academic ability!! Friendships change so he might be friends with someone one week and not the next!!

Look in Reception my son could:
Read fluently
Write
Add
Subtract
Multiply
Do fractions
Was playing violin at Grade 1 level and getting ready for Grade 2
Played piano at Grade 1 level

He couldn’t draw to save his life. And ran like a five legged giraffe. His friends were not ‘like him’. They were still delightful children whom we have had over for play dates and who were intelligent and creative in their own right.

I and other people on this thread have no idea what you want!

Oh my god just learn to read or stop doing it on purpose

Babies what exactly do you want anybody to say. Is your child 'gifted'? Your attitude is a little odd

We have read. We are quoting you. You asked what will the gifted children be like.
You asked will my child have no friends or lots like him.
The rest of your comments are one liners.
Either you are being deliberately obtuse or you are looking for answers we can’t give you.

There were two other gifted kids in my son’s class. He didn’t like either. One was an extremely naughty boy and my son is very quiet and shy. The other was a very bossy girl who was just horrid to the other kids and kept making fun of them. Needless to say he wasn’t friends with either.

Fine. I give up. This is pointless if people are just going to go off on whatever they like

You’re gifted OP. Gift of the gab.

Ok why don’t you tell us WHAT you want to know? In fact why don’t you tell us:

1. Who is gifted? Your child?
2. How gifted is she/he?
3. What are your expectations of Reception?

4 Does he/she have any additional needs?

1. How do you expect the school to cater for their learning?

And then we might be able to tell you how realistic your expectations are. That might be more helpful than abusing us.

OP, give up if you like, but if you're not getting what you want from this thread, you've only got yourself to blame.

You haven't told people why you're asking these questions, so we don't really understand what you want us to say. You haven't responded to most of the very helpful points that people have made. And your posts have come across as abrupt and aggressive.

Nobody can tell you what your ds's classmates will be like, and it doesn't really matter. If he has good social skills, he will make plenty of friends. If he has poor social skills, then you need to work on those.

OP

You should pay for an educational psychologist report. They will clearly let you know how you and school should meet his needs.

Crack on with that and report back

Does it take into account the ages of the children starting in reception?

I am pretty sure I have had this back and forth with this same OP under a different name. If this is indeed the same OP then her son will need 1:1 care in class but he’s academically outstanding. That OP was given similar and sympathetic advice on a previous thread including helpful tips on how to engage with the teachers before school started but was also equally fixated on who else would be in the class and really dismissive of children who may not know their shapes, letters, numbers whatever. And in the end everyone gave up.

Kosha - yes I'm thinking the same. OP has quite spectacular blinkers on and seems determined to ignore pretty much everything anyone says.

OP I think in order for people to answer your question you need to define what you mean by gifted and explain why you feel your child is gifted. Without that information your question is essentially meaningless and impossible to answer.

Ok just incase you are being genuine
My kid will be going in to school in September
Got told my kid will go into the gifted group
But I was told by preschool op was the criteria
Wanted to know if that was true
If the friends my kid makes in that group could relate/talk about educational things/ work together on things
Or if they can't and my child will be on their own for all that and be vastly one sided in the classroom

Ok if I’m honest reading what you said tge pre school have told you I would interpret that as being tgat your child is a bright spark and will be viewed as such a hen they start school - nothing more, nothing less.

Schools don’t have gifted groups - it is a meaningless term - what is the child gifted at? Reading? Writing? Running? Playing the Piano? Speaking Msndarin? Astrophysics? Do you get my point? It needs a quantified. Your average 4 year old which is “ahead” of their peers is probably ahead because they’ve had more exposure to certain the bags e.g pre school have taught them to write / parental hot housing etc.

The best thing you can do for your child at this stage is nothing- love them, play with them, model good social skills, encourage exploration, foster good friendships etc.

They may turn out to have some exceptional skills- they may not. Your just b as a parent is to make them feel valued and loved and help them develop good social skills at this stage.

Chill out and don’t fret

Your child will mix with ALL of the children in their class. They will also mix with the rest of the school in the playground. You seem to think your child will be isolated in one small group. That isn't the case.