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Accepted State Primary School Place Despite DD Going Private

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rvms · 09/05/2018 19:08

I know I'm going to get a lot of stick for this post but there maybe someone with same dilemma. The schools in my area are pretty poor. There are only two really good ones that everyone tries for but you have to be a strict practising Catholic and of course many parents just go to church for 3 years to get the practising Catholic certificate - good on them for their stamina I say! Therefore as soon as DD was born we signed her up for the Prep school and she currently goes to nursery there and loves it. At the time I was in a stable job. However I left this job last year for what I thought was a dream role as a Parliamentary Assistant. Sadly I was badly bullied by my employer and had to leave suddenly making me jobless. Knowing the employment market was not great I decided reluctantly to do a state school application just in case I couldn't get another job in time for Reception. On the day I handed in the application I got an amazing job but still had to pass probation. I got my 2nd choice of school (the 1st being an unobtainable Catholic school). It was a school rated requires improvement 4 years ago but has massively turned around and is a far as I know now a good school in all but an out of date Ofstead rating. Nonetheless because of the poor rating it had been significantly undersubscribed for a number of years so I thought no harm in accepting the place, again just in case as I hadn't been confirmed at the time of acceptance deadline. Was confirmed last week but I discovered that there was now probably a waiting list for the school. To my horror the school contacted my daughter's prep school without my permission revealing that we had accepted a place at the state school. The private school immediately got in touch with me to find out what was going on and to ask me to confirm whether DD was attending the Prep school. I promptly confirmed and candidly explained why I had gone through the state school process. Now the cat's out the bag I guess I have to let the state school know. I feel extremely guilty especially as they sent a lot of information to us and asked detailed questions about my dd. They seem such a lovely caring school, I never expected a state school with 90 children and 3 classes per year to actually pay that much attention to the individual children coming to them. I never expected to hear from them until dd was due to start tbh. However, in the back of my mind I still don't want to tell the state school the truth again just in case as my job is a contract which ends in August but maybe extended. However I think my parents would pay most of the fees if the worst happened - dd is their only grandchild and they still work fulltime. Nonetheless I am holding place which some child may need. Feeling guilty but also torn. Anyone else had this? Please no nasty comments about my attitude to state schools. I hope to send dd to a good one for secondary, I just want to make sure she has good foundations as I had such a bad experience in my state school which set me back years.

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Pythonesque · 14/05/2018 23:34

Morally I agree it is reasonable to hold school places as long as you need to. But I also agree that you are getting to the transition period / notice period for independent school etc etc so there are a number of factors to consider.

When are you likely to find out if your contract will be continued? Can you request any update on that sooner?

Rather different, but we've just been going through senior school entry stuff and had to hang onto a place for absolutely ages that we didn't expect to take up, and couldn't afford, while going through scholarship entrance procedures for other schools. From our experiences at this level, I'd definitely recommend being up front with the prep school though. Hope it all works out.

veggiethrower · 15/05/2018 06:32

I think you should send her to the state school.
Private schools cost an awful lot of money and if your financial situation isn't stable you may end up having to move her to a state school anyway - then you'll be restricted to schools which actually have a place and they may not be as good as the school you have a place at now.
If your financial situation does stabilize you could move her to private for KS2 or KS3.
I also don't think it is a good idea to be relying on help from your parents - what if they are no longer able to work for whatever reason?

MaisyPops · 15/05/2018 06:46

Echoing what others have said really.

If financial security is precarious when initially considering private, then that's 7 years of 'but what if we have to move them'. Plus fees go up as a child goes through private schools too.

If you go private and then it stops being viable, you'll end up needing mid key stage or even mid academic year transfers (in my experience that leaves you with the only places with spaces in a county so not the best schools generally).

Helspopje · 15/05/2018 06:49

To really 'play' the system (but confuse your daughter) you could

Tell state school you are deferring her start until Christmas or Easter as she is summer born and not ready for a 30 child educational environmemt
Keep at indy until you have security or switch if not

If asking for GP help i would ensure they set the money aside as indy's summarily chuck kids out that can't pay and then you will end up at any state with a gap

Quickerthanavicar · 15/05/2018 07:41

If you do defer; remember the school census is taken in October so the school will receive no money for your child for that year. So give them the year's private school fees.

tickingthebox22 · 15/05/2018 07:49

Just a thought but have you confirmed the private school?

Or are you already in the school and progressing on to Reception?

Either way you are already committed to paying the fees through to Christmas anyway - all private schools have rules about "1 clear term notice" to leave.

So if Private school is confirmed you are committed to pay until Christmas, and if you don't want to take up the place you need to give notice before 1st September (usually), and you will stop paying in December.

tickingthebox22 · 15/05/2018 07:50

What I am trying to say is that the decision is already made....

SouthWestmom · 15/05/2018 07:58

Go state and pay for tutors and clubs and save the money for her university fund.

SouthWestmom · 15/05/2018 08:01

I honestly can't see any benefit in prep for primary then state (unless exclusive grammar?) as surely any social connections would be made later in secondary. Primary - learn to read, learn some
Maths. Enjoy life.

(Applied this theory have one at uni, one an arts scholar and one at grammar. All are fine and have found stuff they enjoy that isn't education).

montenotte · 15/05/2018 08:58

It really doesn't sound like you can afford the prep school comfortably.
Take the state school place.
Move her back to prep for yr3 if you're not happy with it. It's much easier to move that way round than the other.

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