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Should your child be able to read when they start Reception?

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Ahmawa · 20/04/2018 19:44

I am really confused as how I can help my DS read - there are so many models and schemes out there I am not sure which one to pick.

I like something clear progression. Would something like the book -Teach your child to read in 100 easy lessons? Or would this conflict with the way kids are taught in school?

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BakedBeans47 · 21/04/2018 09:56

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BakedBeans47 · 21/04/2018 09:59

Nursery taught them a lot more- how to write their name, sign it, draw and cut

So, nursery taught them, and your post infers that it will be the same with reading too once they’re a bit older. So what kind of “parental engagement” is involved there?

motorpink · 21/04/2018 10:06

I never understand why people are in such a rush to teach their children to read. The same people then obsess over book bands for years Confused

The children go to school to learn. That's the specific purpose of the school. I wonder would the same people sign their DC up for day, swimming lessons by teach them to swim first?

There are no prizes for being able to read before your peers, neither does it matter what book band you are on when you can read.

It makes absolutely no difference whatsoever. Children who have gone into school able to read have left school and turned to crime or drugs. Children who have gone into school unable to read have gone through university and are high earners.

How about just letting kids be kids.

100% agree with the social and life skills being more important. People seem to think it's ridiculous that a child would enter reception and not be competent at toileting or dressing but it is actually really common.

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LadyPenelope68 · 21/04/2018 10:12

Primary teacher here - do not teach them to read, totally unnecessary. Teach them to get dressed/undressed, put their shoes on, wash hands, go to the toilet, draw with them and read loads to them. Enjoy!

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spanieleyes · 21/04/2018 10:15

Even" my child can dress themselves" is fraught with difficulties!

Yes, they can dress themselves when their clothes are laid out on the bed, right way round and right side out. But just watch a class of 30 trying to dress when their clothes are inside out, back to front, two legs down one, sleeves stuck inside shirts, jumpers rolled up into a ball, one sock mysteriously missing, the list of what children CAN do to their clothes is endless!

ChocolateWombat · 21/04/2018 17:08

Some children are very interested in reading at 3 or 4. If this is the case, there is nothing wrong with starting with them - the idea that only pushy parents would do this is daft - lots of children are capable and ready to learn some basics at 3 or 4 and some won't start school until they are very close to 5, so why not.

It is true that children who haven't done it before school, who turn out to be good readers will catch up with those who started before, so in the end it doesn't matter.....however, being a bit ahead or on top of it, if it hasn't been forced by parents, can be helpful for confidence building and just boosting early reading skills.

To give my DC as example...they started learning phonics at 2.5 - the basic stuff. They wanted to and had a collage thing on their wall and used to point at the phonic sounds and I'd tell them what they were and very very quickly, they just knew them all.....no instigation from me, apart from it was us who stuck it up for decoration. And at 3.5 were doing some basic blending and reading words, followed by basic books of both phonic and non phonic nature - some phonics schemes, but also Peter and Jane which isn't phonics and not liked by many. Both DC were Autumn born and by the time they started school were able to read basic story books and Enid Blyton .....could read pretty fluently out loud, with understanding.

At school, they started with a a a ant and the jolly phonics actions - all fine ....enjoyed the group activities, were quickly spotted as readers and moved onto about Level 6 of the reading scheme. Yes, they sat through lots of carpet time on basic phonics, but I and they weren't bothered by that. The teacher/TA heard them read the school scheme books (easier than they would read at home, but fine) and at home they continued to read more advanced stuff every day.

Years later.....they are good and avid readers. Some other kids their age, who couldn't read a word when they started school are too, and are equally good and avid. One benefit I think mine had was always having a sense they loved reading, always feeling they were good at it and doing well and never really going through the struggling to become fluent phase or not wanting to read nightly. By the time they started school, they read well enough and regularly enough for it not to be a chore and to be normal.

In the end it will be a personal choice. Whenever they start to read, there can be a hard phase where they move to fluency. Whenever they start, I think the key thing is for parents to get the children to read every day, pretty much 365 days a year - it's not homework or a chore or something to miss at weekends or holidays, because it's a bit hard and they don't like it...it's like brushing your teeth and you do it every day. In my mind, parents who do that and who persevere through the early harder times, find their kids make quicker progress and are more likely to become confident readers who love it.

I'm always surprised at how few parents these days do any reading with their pre-school children. Knowing where to start can be off-putting, as can a fear of 'doing it wrong'. I think once children start school and phonics and move into books, lots of parents find it hard work...children resist or struggle to move to fluency...it's a bit of a battle and so parents opt out at points - especially school holidays....and this makes it hard to sustain progress and makes reading seem like a chore and homework to children....so my advice, is that whenever you do start (might well be at school) then commit to the 365 days a year on it...it's so worthwhile.

sirfredfredgeorge · 21/04/2018 17:55

can be helpful for confidence building and just boosting early reading skills

But as an aside, one of my DD's peers had a huge struggle in the summer term of reception when all the self esteem he'd got simply from early acquisition of reading came crashing and he really struggled when others caught up and he wasn't special. So it can go both ways.

Personally I would actually discourage a kid who was actually interested in trying to read before school, if they really are "ready" then they'll still learn it really quickly in school, making school seem exciting and you've saved all the one on one time to do things which are even more useful than learning the skill - increasing vocabulary, getting a love from story etc. by simply reading high quality stories with them.

SoyDora · 21/04/2018 18:07

Personally I would actually discourage a kid who was actually interested in trying to read before school

But why? DD1 was desperate to learn to read, she pestered me about it all the time. I facilitated it in the same way I facilitated it when she wanted to do swimming lessons and gymnastics. She’s an autumn born so will be nearly 5 when she starts school.
Why would I have discouraged it? It was something she really wanted to do and is really happy that she can do. She sits in her bedroom for half an hour in the morning when she wakes up reading to herself and to her little sister. It makes her happy.

gfrnn · 21/04/2018 18:14

one data point : in DS1's reception year group. 4 out of 40 kids were reading at some level on entering reception. i.e. 90% were not reading at all. So clearly it is not "necessary" as the school will be set up to teach them from the beginning on the assumption that they have not started.
However I wouldn't hold a younger child who was ready and interested back - it opens up a channel to learn about the world.

Tomorrowillbeachicken · 21/04/2018 18:15

No, my son couldn't and I never even thought to teach him tbh. He could yr1 maths in nursery though.
Pushing your child to be too far ahead of peers may well lead to frustration though.

Bettiedraper · 22/04/2018 14:06

@Ahmawa
I would recommend "How To Teach Your Baby To Read" by Glenn Domann. It's been around since the 1960s and is a tried-and-tested method that has been used now for several generations with great success—including my own family.

The primary school teachers on this thread who are saying that parents should actively discourage pre-schoolers from reading are a disgrace to their profession.

Kokeshi123 · 22/04/2018 14:13

Different country and different writing system here, but I taught my kid the basics before school because I felt it would make school less tiring and stressful for her, and make homework and reading quicker and easier, which would make my life less stressful too especially as we have to do homework and reading after I finish work and we are both tired.

I wonder would the same people sign their DC up for day, swimming lessons by teach them to swim first?

What a strange comment. Lots of people teach their child some basic swimming skills before handing over to a professional. What's wrong with that?

motorpink · 22/04/2018 16:45

What a strange comment. Lots of people teach their child some basic swimming skills before handing over to a professional. What's wrong with that?

Maybe I chose a bad example but surely it's not difficult to understand what I meant? Nothing strange about that.

Rockandrollwithit · 22/04/2018 16:48

I'm a primary school teacher and I have a 3 year old who will be starting school in September. I'm teaching him phonics. He's really interested in reading (has been watching his older cousin) and is enjoying it.

Bouledeneige · 22/04/2018 19:19

No. One of my DC could a little and the other couldn't at all. The one who could forgot it all when they started school so it made no difference.

Enjoy your time with your DS and don't worry - there should be no presssure to learn.

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