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1Sept kid with HLP how possible is start a year ahead

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Mayita · 19/04/2018 14:02

My son is a lot more mature for his age and I am being in someway "home schooling" him as he has not been accepted for reception last year.

I put him on preschool but this has impacted him to his normal emotional development a lot more of what I was expecting. he was growing nice and healthier but I am now seeing traits that are causing me real concerns. he is already clearly more mature for kids of his own age (he is 4) and it is not only not having the chance to be kids older than her, but because he's been born on 1 sept he is instead hold with little kids as young and 3 a lot more little than her in every single aspect.

I am determined in doing whatever it takes for my son's health. I wonder of someone has any experience on this or have any advice.
if someone knows that this was possible for some kids.

He at least needs to be with kids of his age. and instead of starting
Reception, he needs to be on year 1.

I know that local autorities are very strict in this aspect, but the school admissions code states to have this considerations. I thought about the law and children rights too and the considerations on the child as individual. it seems SEN or inclusion policies of school does not help. so I am not sure how to approach and ask for a place to my local autority with which evidence. educational psycologists how? we have no resources to pay private either.. he is already having behavioural issues but this is because his experience in preschool

My child needs at least to be with kids of his age. he is very advanced emotionally speaking very mature and understanding, very kind and quick in understanding new learning, he only wants to make friends, needs to talk to people do things in a group. he feels isolated, and many times unhappy, he is so strong and understanding that he is trying to overcome this himself. he see himself different to the other that re considerable younger.

Many Thanks!

OP posts:
Mayita · 21/04/2018 22:17

Thanks. I understand and respect your views. I have done my own research and I have my own considerations and I am not only lived in UK. I am not certainly taken lightly and it took me long to have this decision made and have the right to fight for what I think as a mother it is the rightest thing to do for a son.
I agree in 3 years or so my son will just be ok. but That does not make me feel any better of what it is happening now.

I was told that by secondary school I will face the same issue. but by that time circumstances could be different anyway.
how far 31Aug from 1 Sept is...

He has been already in school last year in my country in reception class and during preschool here in UK I continued homeschooling. I am not based on academic, I am basing my decision on her emotional and social needs and that I really wish to see him going upwards and happy.
I may not be right or it may not appear right on what I enquired here. however I was expecting answers from people that actually had experience on this and knew about it rather than the opposite. I knew what the mass answer would be anyway.
Thanks for your kind replies I however read some good advice :)
thanks for your kind wishes... xx

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Tartanscarf · 21/04/2018 22:24

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comfycosy123 · 21/04/2018 22:33

I was born in the first week of September and there was 5 others of us, your DS won't be the only one.

My daughter is also first week of September and I'm glad she will be an older one I'm hoping she will be more ready for school, I always feel abit sad for the July August babies they seems so little .

Also I agree with PP in secondary school it's different , I would hate to send mine to young

Ontopofthesunset · 21/04/2018 22:39

Well, to be honest, it isn't possible to put him into the year above unless you go privately- and even then it would be very unlikely unless you could demonstrate that he was several years ahead academically. So it doesn't really matter whether people agree with you or not. You won't get him put up a year in a UK state school. Statistically in a class of 30 there are likely to be 2or 3 other children born in September and a third of the class born within 4 months of him. He won't be the only mature child.

Witchend · 21/04/2018 22:43

There is nothing in the social situations you've written about that sounds out of the normal for a child about to begin reception.

Although you better know that the "you're not my friend any more" may well continue way beyond year 1.

user789653241 · 22/04/2018 05:58

I am not sure if it's really a good idea based on evidence, especially you are homeschooling him, not sending him to nursery/preschool. My ds was very mature in a way, and academically advanced, and teachers always commented that they forgets he was a little boy sometimes. But on the other hand, he was very immature socially. He did prefer older company, and out of place with his peer group in early primary. But it's not because he was too mature, exactly the opposite.
Even if you succeeded to send him into year above, he may still have same problem. He needs to learn to socialise with children with ranged maturity.

DaffodilsBlowingInTheWind · 22/04/2018 06:16

Hello I was put up a year early at primary level and my husband accelerated through senior school so he took his A levels when he was just 17. Neither of us would recommend being put up a year. It isn’t possible in the state sector in this country anyway I don’t think ?

TheMonkeysOnTheTable · 22/04/2018 07:56

Someone upthread said they wished their was more choice about which year to school your child in for parents born 2 weeks either side of the cutoff. This is something I’ve often thought myself (as i mentioned earlier dd is also Sept 1. Her due date was in August). I think in reality though I’m glad that the decision has been taken out of my hands. I’d be agonising about whether I’d made the right choice for years. At this point before they even start there are so many unknowns. My brother is in his 40s and my mum still blames herself for “getting it wrong” and moving him up a year at school.

Norestformrz · 22/04/2018 08:30

"What exactly makes it ok for a child born on 31st August, but not for the child born on 1st September?" The OP wants her four year old to start school in year 1 which is very different to a four year old starting reception.

OP I'm afraid the only way you're going to achieve this aim is if you send your child to an independent school

my2bundles · 22/04/2018 09:52

There is a very wide range of abilitys in reception. Your child won't be the only one at the higher end and most likely won't be the highest achieving or most mature, there will be many others at a similar age and level.. Reception teachers are very used to this broad spectrum.

LorelaiVictoriaGilmore · 22/04/2018 11:31

Well I was moved up a year and, unlike pp, thank goodness for it! I was bored out of my mind and spent most classes reading novels under the desk. I didn't have a problem emotionally or socially although I did take a gap year after school as I decided I didn't want to go up to Cambridge aged 17.

One thing I would say though is that I was moved up at secondary school not primary as I think before then the view was very much that it was too soon to tell. And that view was probably right. Also my maths was always a bit behind all my other subjects so i had to work really hard at that to prove I should be moved up a year - even with very bright kids, there may be subjects that they aren't so strong in.

Norestformrz · 22/04/2018 11:33

Were you moved up a year before you even started school?

my2bundles · 22/04/2018 11:41

Even if your child is allowed to miss reception which is highly unlikely secondary school won't take him a year early, he would have to repeat year 6 and enter in his correct year group.

campion · 22/04/2018 12:15

I've seen several out of year children in my time in independents and I really wouldn't recommend it. Almost without exception,they just don't fit in socially even if they cope ademically.Secondary school really emphasises the age difference.
I've even suspected that it encouraged them to behave in a more immature manner than if they had been in their true academic year. This may have been a coping mechanism.
I just felt sorry for most of them and can't see how it benefited their development.

My DH was given the opportunity to be put up a year when he was 11 and his DM said no. He's very grateful that she did and it certainly didn't hold him back.

jellycat1 · 22/04/2018 12:34

I also have a September born and he's apparently 'ahead' of his peers in a number of ways in his Nursery class. However I take this with a massive pinch of salt, because it is all relative and differences at this age are at their most stark. I see friends with older children and it definitely all evens out later on. I certainly wouldn't be coming to the conclusion at this point that he's somehow terribly advanced. In addition I would definitely not take away the potential advantages of being the oldest in the year and lumber him with the potential disadvantages of being the youngest at that developmental stage. 4/5 is so little. My advice to you would be relax, let him start school and see what transpires.

brilliotic · 22/04/2018 18:07

"What exactly makes it ok for a child born on 31st August, but not for the child born on 1st September?" The OP wants her four year old to start school in year 1 which is very different to a four year old starting reception.

No MRZ, OP's child is 4 now, and due to start reception in September, when they will be 5 (and a few days, since school doesn't start on 1st September). My child (and all late August babies) started Y1 at 5 and a few days (say, 14 days instead of 4 days) - the same age.

I could have legally and without consulting anyone, deferred my child's entry to school until they were 5 (CSA), and would have had to send him into Y1. In contrast, if I had wanted to send him into reception at age 5, I would have had to have permission from the LA and the HT (at our school/LA that would have been impossible).

It seems fairly absurd to me that what was impossible for my late August child, is the only option for OP's early September child. My child would have had no choice but to start Y1 at age 5, OP's child has no choice but to start reception at age 5; unless they go independent.

Norestformrz · 22/04/2018 18:31

"No MRZ, OP's child is 4 now, and due to start reception in September, when they will be 5 (and a few days, since school doesn't start on 1st September). " we can't start back on the 1st as it's a Saturday but the OP wants them to join Y1 missing out the Foundation Stage

Norestformrz · 22/04/2018 18:36

Most children who skip a year start school with their peers then are "promoted" to another year group. I started with my peers then was moved which meant I missed most of the infant stage and I spent 6 years in the juniors (KS2) because I couldn't move to secondary two years early.

Tomorrowillbeachicken · 22/04/2018 18:40

TBh my sun always has a birthday before they start in sept as he is v. early sept.

Tomorrowillbeachicken · 22/04/2018 18:40

son lol

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