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DD getting into trouble at school but not sure it's warranted

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stationtwelve · 02/02/2018 09:38

Just wondering what others would do in this situation.

DD is 6, in Yr2. She has been in the same friendship group now since foundation. This is about one of her friends - lets call her Lily. I have seen DD and Lily interact a lot over the years outside of school at playdates, parties etc. and at an activity they do together.

Lily is not very robust. She gets upset very easily at perceived slights (eg DD has accidentally bumped into her whilst they're happily playing) and there's a lot of tears and tale telling over nothing. I am honestly not the kind of parent who thinks their child can do no wrong, but I've witnessed these interactions so many times to know that DD is not intentionally upsetting her.

The problem is what's happening at school. They use a traffic light system for behaviour and increasingly DD is being "put on red" for an incident, always involving Lily. DD tells me that things aren't on purpose and I believe her based on what I've observed so many times. I've even heard now from another parent on a couple of occasions that their child has told them it was unfair on DD.

I'm not sure that things are properly witnessed by an adult and that DD is being reprimanded based on Lily's reactions. Lily is very small, her speech is that of a younger child and I don't know whether this is affecting the teachers' judgement in a way as she presents as being younger than she is.

One problem is that DD doesn't argue her case to the teacher, despite me explaining to her that she needs to speak up that they were playing, things were not done on purpose etc. I'm fed up with having these pep talks with her now but I can understand why at 6 she doesn't want to debate with the teacher.

I don't really know what to do. I've told DD to be gentle around Lily, avoid boisterous play and not give her any reason to become upset. But they're an established group of friends so they inevitably will always play together. And really at this age DD should be able to run around with her friends without worrying that one of them is going to go crying to a teacher.

Would it be reasonable for me to speak to school, and ask them to assure me that DD is only reprimanded for things that have been properly witnessed by an adult who is 100% certain they have been done on purpose? I don't want to come across as "that parent" who thinks their child is faultless but equally I'm starting to become worried that she's going to get labelled as unkind.

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GhostWriter666 · 03/02/2018 11:27

We have a "lily"... always telling on my dd.

"mini ghost wont play with meeeeeee"
"minighost bumped into meeeee"
"mini ghost is going to tell over meeeee"

Speak to a teacher...they would want to know. They may be able to keep an eye on lily and see what does actually happen.

BrendansDanceShoes · 03/02/2018 12:00

Think your school traffic light system is harsh! Red at my DD's school is only used for the serious offences. A bump like you described would be an Amber if it was a one off. Is this Lily an attention seeker? I've seen incidents like this where the tell tale has background issues. Is she upset about being the smallest and trying to assert her authority with taller, same age kids? Some kids at that age have a preconception that taller means automatically older and cleverer.

Thehogfather · 03/02/2018 21:43

Speak to school and ask if they can discreetly watch both.

Dd went to primary with a Lily. Our Lily perpetrated incidents too and then played the victim when dd retaliated. Dd was always very honest and would admit to her retaliation but Lily would deny her part and play on the poor, sensitive, quiet persona. A quick chat with school solved it, within a few days they were able to see what was really happening and quickly stamp on it.

Lily constantly tried it with other dc throughout primary, with her batshit pfb parents accusing school of ignoring bullying. Also did the same at various extra curriculars. I really pity Lily, she had no friends anywhere by the end of primary, and I just hope at some point she sees the light and ignores her idiot parents.

Supermagicsmile · 06/02/2018 04:26

I would see the teacher asap about this. It's not fair on your dd.

user1497199406 · 10/02/2018 12:10

Definitely see the teacher. I teach six year old girls and have a couple just like "Lily". We do lots of work around being resilient. I also agree with the PP who said red for this seems harsh. I tend to only use red cards for very serious issues...I only gave one out this week and that was for telling a staff member to f* off! Maybe check the schools policy on what constitutes a red? Smile

Shimmershimmerandshine · 11/02/2018 07:09

Skittles I've had that one too. I think some children realise that fabrication gets lots of attention from mummy. I went to school and made sure the allegations weren't true because if they had been dd would have been in very serious trouble. The other child left eventually.

You need to talk to the school op. Even if your dd is in the wrong the approach they are taking isn't working and a different strategy is needed.

KayaG · 11/02/2018 07:48

I would think that Lilly is jealous of OP's DD. Lilly seems quiet shy and introvert and DD seems to be confident and outgoing, throwing herself into activities.

Speak to the teacher. I think Lilly is attention seeking if no one else sees what is happening or denies it is happening.

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