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How long between Ofsted visit and report coming out?

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WellTidy · 29/01/2018 11:26

Ofsted visited DC's school last week - standard, routine inspection, not on the back of complaints or similar. How long does it tend to be nowadays before they publish their report please?

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Bubblysqueak · 29/01/2018 11:26

Usually 2 weeks but anything up to 6 has been heard of

WellTidy · 29/01/2018 11:53

That is much quicker than I expected. Thank you. I will keep a look out on the Ofsted website as I am very interested in the result.

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tiggytape · 29/01/2018 12:19

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WellTidy · 29/01/2018 14:19

Thank you tiggy, I will bear this in mind!

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PansyGiraffe · 29/01/2018 15:49

School gets told the result on the day but it is provisional, subject to moderation, and you're not allowed to tell anyone else (including, strictly speaking, the staff... although I suspect most heads drop some very heavy hints).

Report then has to be written and finalised which can take a couple of weeks - as Tiggy says, it can take longer still if the school challenges the findings.

School has to tell parents once it is published so don't worry about watching the Ofsted website - you will see it ten days before it goes up on the Ofsted website.

Witchend · 29/01/2018 18:55

I think (though I might be wrong) if they were only there one day then they'll get a good. If they were there two days they're in for an outstanding or a disaster. But I might be wrong there.

WellTidy · 29/01/2018 19:02

Oh lord. They were there for three days, maybe not three full days, but definitely there over three different days.

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CornwallLass · 30/01/2018 12:24

The Ofsted rules have recently changed (Jan 2018). There are two main types of inspection: Section 8 (one day - no grade change possible) and Section 5 (usually two days), both with notice the day before. A Section 8 is for a school currently graded as good and is an overview inspection. The inspection takes one day, and the school is reconfirmed as good, but if the inspectors feel the school is outstanding or requires improvement, they issue a letter to that effect and will return in about 18 months to check. A Section 8 can convert to a Section 5 two day inspection immediately, usually if there are major safeguarding or management concerns, and will usually result in an inadequate grading (but not always). A Section 5 is also a pre-booked two day inspection, at present usually for a school currently requiring improvement or inadequate. It looks in depth at many areas of the school and can result in a grade change.
If your school is currently good and you had a two day inspection, the omens are not good. If is currently RI or inadequate, it could mean anything. I have never known a three day inspection for a mainstream school - are you sure? (There is no provision for this on the Ofsted website.)
(Different rules apply to Special Schools. Also, this is a brief, rather simplistic overview - you can look on the Ofsted website for all the rules and exceptions.)

WellTidy · 30/01/2018 13:24

They were definitely there for three days. First two days were being at school, observing in classrooms etc, third day asking for parent feedback. School currently rated good.

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WellTidy · 30/01/2018 13:25

And yes, it is a mainstream school.

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NotAnotherJaffaCake · 30/01/2018 13:30

We had a Section 5 before Christmas and the full report was out in less than a calendar month. Section 8 inspection reports in neighbouring primaries conducted at the same time were published in about a fortnight. Three day inspection does not sound great, as CornwallLass said, it should have been a single day Section 8 if everything was fine and the school is currently good....

llangennith · 30/01/2018 13:32

We’re having an inspection next week and been told they’ll be here 3 days.

CornwallLass · 30/01/2018 14:07

Well it all sounds very strange. Links to Ofsted handbooks here:

Section 8 www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/676900/School_inspection_handbook-section_8.pdf

Section 5
www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/670083/School_inspection_handbook_section_5.pdf

To quote from Section 5 booklet:
59. Inspections do not normally last longer than two days. The size of the inspection team will vary according to the size and nature of the school. Inspectors will spend most of their time gathering first-hand evidence to inform judgements.

My theory would be that as a good school there was a one day Section 8 timetabled, serious concerns were raised and it converted to a two day Section 5. Normally the first day evidence is used so there is a total of two days, but I have known one inspection where they wanted fresh evidence so started from scratch.

Llan I am amazed that they know in advance it is three days unless there are exceptional circumstances, but if you know the inspection is next week, it cannot be a standard Section 5 or 8 (again, assuming mainstream primary or secondary.) as schools are only notified the day before.

WellTidy · 30/01/2018 15:04

I know Cornwall. It is a very small, private mainstream primary. Last inspected nearly 6 years ago. They and we as parents had one day's notice of the inspection. I've looked at your links, thank you. I am getting quite worried.

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WellTidy · 30/01/2018 15:05

Thank you Jaffa. Yes, I am really concerned. I am checking the ofsted website every day in case they publish the report before notification arrives via school.

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CornwallLass · 30/01/2018 15:56

Well, what do you mean by private mainstream? If it is a private school it would usually come under Independent School Inspectorate unless the head is not a member of the ISC. Are you absolutely sure it was Ofsted and not merely 'inspectors'?
ISI framework here:
www.isi.net/site/downloads/1.1%20Handbook%20Inspection%20Framework%202017-01.pdf

WellTidy · 30/01/2018 16:01

Cornwall, it was definitely ofsted. We had a letter from ofsted the day before the inspection, I have double checked it. It is a private school. I have checked in the ISC website and the school is not listed, so the head is not a member of the ISC I assume. I am really worried.

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CornwallLass · 30/01/2018 16:15

That now makes sense. I suspect that it is a non-registered independent school, which means all the rules are different, so disregard everything anybody has said so far. The inspection would usually last three days and the report should be out within 14 days afterwards.
Guidance here:
www.gov.uk/guidance/being-inspected-as-a-non-association-independent-school

Knittedfairies · 30/01/2018 17:00

What are you worried about OP?

WellTidy · 30/01/2018 17:42

Thank you so much Cornwall. I am breathing a sigh of relief! I was worried that'll all meant that I had been sending DC to a poorly performing school for the last X years. The school hadn't previously been inspected since before DC started there.

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