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Late school application

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sarah1601 · 16/01/2018 20:17

I want to hear from mums that have made a late school application, the closing date was yesterday and I completely forgot, the number on choice school is in the catchment area but is popular, can mums who have made a late application tell me what the outcome was? I am worried sick!

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BeingATwatItsABingThing · 16/01/2018 20:18

Just bumping for you. I have no experience of this.

MiaowTheCat · 16/01/2018 20:20

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NinaNoSleep · 16/01/2018 20:28

More information woukd be helpful.
Maintained or academy?..academies have their own admissions system.
Is this usually an oversubscribed school and other are other schools locally?

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sarah1601 · 16/01/2018 20:53

@ninanosleep this is a village school with 26 places for catchment and 3 for non catchment there is only 200 pupils from reception to year 6 and I think is a popular school the rest of the schools on my application are in the town

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sarah1601 · 16/01/2018 20:53

also it is a low birth rate year

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FrostyThirties0 · 16/01/2018 20:54

Blimey poor you!

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sarah1601 · 16/01/2018 20:56

He is currently at nursery there but I don’t know if that makes a difference and the school is a 1 minute walk away but I don’t know if this makes any difference I really didn’t want him at one of the big schools

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CotswoldStrife · 16/01/2018 20:58

I would check with the council, as I would have thought they will simply allocate a place if you don't apply - but not necessarily at the school you want.

MrsHathaway · 16/01/2018 20:58

A good friend of mine did this.

She did not get into her preferred oversubscribed school (would have done if applied on time). She got into a good nearby school where her daughter is very happy.

She and I are, however, somewhat evangelical about getting friends to get their applications in on time. I'm sure I bore people but I regret not being explicit with her (I consider her very clued up so had simply assumed she'd be sorted).

LIZS · 16/01/2018 20:59

Nursery attendance won't help with a reception application. Distance should put you top of waiting list if needs be, although possibly behind siblings. If you should have applied to LA best give them a ring urgently but tbh I'm surprised that there wasn't any poster or reminder at the nursery which prompted you to meet the deadline yesterday.

MrsHathaway · 16/01/2018 21:00

I would check with the council, as I would have thought they will simply allocate a place if you don't apply - but not necessarily at the school you want.

No. If you don't apply they assume you don't want a state school place so don't allocate you anything. Independent schools and home education are completely legal after all!

FrostyThirties0 · 16/01/2018 21:01

they will simply allocate a place if you don't apply

Not true.
They can’t possible know that you want a school place if you don’t apply, even if it’s late.

Lindy2 · 16/01/2018 21:07

Around here they'll allocate places to everyone who put their applications in on time. You will then be given a place at whatever school still has a space left. You are basically now right at the back of the queue. You probably won't get a school that you want or if you do you will have been very lucky. Accept whatever place you are given and then if you would prefer another school go on that school waiting list. Whatever you do don't turn down the place you are given or you'll end up in even more of a mess.

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sarah1601 · 16/01/2018 21:15

Oh no, I’m so upset by this all I feel like i’ve Ruined my sons life and he will have to go to the worst school 😩 I rang the council and they gave me a late application form to fill in online but did say because it is only 1 day late and the on time applications are only being processed today it shouldn’t be too bad... I hope!

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refusetobeasheep · 16/01/2018 21:18

Have you filled it in online? Sounds like if you do it now you may be ok. Good luck!

myrtleWilson · 16/01/2018 21:21

Sorry but I think it will still be classed as a late application so all applications done before midnight cut off point will be processed and assessed before yours can be considered...

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sarah1601 · 16/01/2018 21:21

Yes I’ve done it online and emailed it tonight I only remembered at 5:15pm today!

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CotswoldStrife · 16/01/2018 21:22

If you can apply online that is really hopeful - usually that is not an option for late apps. Get it done!

I had to make a late app after moving after allocation to a different area and it was done via email with the admissions team - only mentioned one school with a place near us, luckily we liked it!

Lindy2 · 16/01/2018 21:24

You've not ruined his life but you need to plan ahead now. Hopefully your application is in now. You may be lucky and get a school that you want. I do know someone who managed to get a place at the school they wanted even though they applied very late. They were lucky that there was a place left and they were very close to it.
In reality you may need to go on waiting lists as soon as places are allocated. However, if you are very close to the school you want you could well be at the top of the waiting list and get the first available place. Anyone else going on the list, who did an on time application, is likely to live further away.
Your son will still get a school place ( which is way better than no place) but you may need to do extra applying if you'd rather he was somewhere else.

Changebagsandgladrags · 16/01/2018 21:24

If it's a village school you might be OK. Ours will take applicants right up to the starting date in September

carringtonm · 16/01/2018 21:25

My understanding of the system is that all on-time applications will be considered and allocated first, then as far as I know it'll be first come, first served after that, so the sooner you get your application in, the better! You'll have to apply with a paper form through the school directly (they can fax it), or post it - online applications cannot be accepted outside the deadline.

However if all the spaces at the school you want are allocated to people who got their forms in on time, then you'll be offered a place in a different school (your second option if available, then third, etc.) and placed on a 'continued interest list' for your first choice, which is based on the same priorities as on-time applications (siblings, SEN, catchment, etc). I have been a nursery teacher for five years so my experience is based on that.

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sarah1601 · 16/01/2018 21:25

Oh yeah I did it by email! Although on the website it did say secondary school applications are now closed and let me continue with the primary school application although didn’t let me submit so phone up

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greatbigwho · 16/01/2018 21:27

I was possibly moving house so spoke to the council about the late application procedure. I was told that anything received after 23.59 on the 15th is then taken in order of receipt. All the applications made on time are dealt with, then the late applications are done in order of receipt - so if your application was made on the 16th you'll probably be dealt with fairly early on, but after all the other applications have been done.

steppemum · 16/01/2018 21:31

Hi OP,
Ok, so the worst case scenario is that they will not consider the application until after the rest of the allocations are made. I'm afraid that that is the normal procedure, that late applications, even 1 minute late are put to one side and considered after the rest. So all allocation are done, and then the late applications are given any places that are left.

I am surprised by the council saying they may process it with the others, if they do that is wonderful and you will be considered alongside everyone else, and nothing to worry about.

You can phone them again in a few days and ask if they have processed it alongside the others or as a late application.

If it is a late application, all is not lost. On allocation day you need to accept the place offered (even if you have no intention of using it, the LA won't help with the rest if you turn down a place) Then ask to go on the waiting list for the school of your choice. The waiting list is organised according to the selection criteria, not the time you go on it, so living so close to the school will put you at the top of the waiting list. Many schools have movement on their waiting list before the school year starts.
You can also appeal.

steppemum · 16/01/2018 21:38

There is some very wrong information on this thread.
For schools in England:
All applications, done at any time, must be done through the LEA.
Schools don't 'accept applications up until Sept' all applications are processed after the Jan deadline. After that, any school with a place empty (which is often true of a village school) can accept an application at any time, the application goes to the LEA and they allocate a place int he school, if it has places left. Once the school is full, then you have to go on a waiting list or appeal.

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