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Admissions - One twin in special unit

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DoublyTroubly · 07/01/2018 21:24

Hi

I’m hoping for some help from the admissions specialists. My twins are due to start school in 2019. One of my twins is severely speech delayed and may be eligible for a speech unit at a local school. In this case, I would like their twin to attend the mainstream unit in the same school for obvious reasons.

However, we live too far away for the other twin to get in normally and the sibling priority specifically doesn’t apply where the sibling is in the language unit - key wording is:
Note 2: Sibling refers to brother or sister, half brother or sister, adopted brother or sister, step brother or sister, or the child of the parent/carer’s partner, and, in every case, the child should be living in the same family unit at the same address. The elder sibling must still be on roll at the school when the younger child starts school. This sibling ruling does not apply to pupils in our Speech & Language Provision classes. We welcome applications from parents with siblings of children in these classes but would also advise them to apply to their closest school

Does anyone know if the rules would be different for twins?

Thanks for your help x

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user1471451866 · 07/01/2018 21:28

I have no experience of this myself, but I wonder if TAMBA might be able to help?

KateGrey · 07/01/2018 21:29

Speak to county. Does one of your twins have an ehcp?

user1471451866 · 07/01/2018 21:33

They campaigned, for years I think, to stop twins being sent to separate schools so might be willing to help you.

DoublyTroubly · 07/01/2018 21:49

TAMBA is a good idea, thanks

Unfortunately I’ve been reading my local schools admissions guidelines and it says:
n Please note that if a school is offered to one twin with SEN or an Education, Health and Care Plan plan after it being named on their Plan, the twin without a an EHCP must qualify under the school’s admissions criteria to be offered a place at the same school.
so it’s not looking likely

My DC hasn’t got an ECHP yet - I’m looking into it so it will be sorted before admission time

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Frazzled2207 · 07/01/2018 22:05

That sounds odd and I would speak to the council to clarify. Round here twins go together and I heard that twins is one of the ways an extra child gets in in an admissions year.

DoublyTroubly · 07/01/2018 22:25

Thanks, I will do. To be honest, it’s making me feel physically sick to think of them being in separate schools. However, it wouldn’t be fair to not put the speech delayed twin in the school best set up to meet his needs would it?

I will need to talk to my local school to see what their SEN provision is like

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Oywatchadoin · 07/01/2018 22:31

“he twin without a an EHCP must qualify under the school’s admissions criteria to be offered a place at the same school.”

But he’d get in on the sibling rule though, is how I read that.

Frazzled2207 · 07/01/2018 22:37

If the council isn't accomodating, and fingers crossed they are, in your situation I'd be looking at moving house unfortunately Angry

Witchend · 08/01/2018 10:23

I would expect a twin to counted the same as a sibling except for the excepted situation where they are PAN and PAN+1 on admissions.

admission · 08/01/2018 11:57

I believe the issue will be that the specialised unit is accessed by individual pupils who have an ehc plan and this plan specifies the unit provision at the school, not the school as a whole. The unit provision will have a set number of places that can be offered which is over and above the PAN of the school.

As such the other twin will have to apply for a place at the school in the normal way. They will not receive any improvement in the admission criteria, such as sibling priority as in effect the other twin with the EHC Plan is counted as a totally separate from the other twin.

Having said that you need to get from the admission authority, which will be the Local Authority assuming it is a maintained school, a definitive written statement to clarify what "the twin without a an EHCP must qualify under the school’s admissions criteria to be offered a place at the same school." means. I would read it as the twin will be counted not as a sibling but just as a single pupil but you need a definitive written statement as to whether they would be counted as a sibling or not.

DoublyTroubly · 08/01/2018 17:32

Thanks everyone

As per my original post, the school’s admission policy specifically states that children with a sibling in the unit don’t get sibling priority so I think that’s a no go. I will definitely talk to the LA and TAMBA to see if they can help

Our local school is excellent (Ofsted outstanding), so I’m also going to talk to them about their SEN provisions, especially for Verbal Dyspraxia which my DC has been diagnosed.

I really don’t think we are going to be in a position to move nearer the school with the unit, so I think we’ve got a really really difficult decision to make (assuming my DC gets an EHCP anyway)

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Ellecollins11 · 23/02/2024 19:40

Hello

Ive just come across your post as I’m approaching the same situation. I have a twin with ASD that we are hoping will get a place in a unit attached to a mainstream school. We are not within their catchment. What was the outcome in your situation please?

i really hope it worked out for you.

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