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Quick Poll - how many of your kids have saturday school at primary (prep) level and what do you think

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PrincessPeaHead · 23/04/2007 14:32

I'm about to go into battle with our headmaster about saturday school. It is every other saturday for years 5-8 from 8.15 to 4pm. Chapel and visiting lectures and random things (but not classes) in the morning, games in the afternoon.

I think 8.15 - 6.00 5 days a week is enough school thanks very much.

WOuld be v grateful for real life examples of what goes on at other prep schools

thanks!

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Enid · 23/04/2007 14:57

could they [gasp] board?

piglit · 23/04/2007 14:57

Can I ask roughly where the school is? I have a feeling that you might live about half an hour or so away from me. Would be v weird if we are talking about the same school....

PrincessPeaHead · 23/04/2007 14:57

we are TOO RURAL

but frankly if those are the hours I might as well send her full boarding in dorset or wherever for all I will see of her

which obviously I have no interest in doing, she is only 9, but it would save me and her a lot of driving

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PrincessPeaHead · 23/04/2007 14:58

no optional weds here so not the same one I think!

near the lovely serene town of Swindon

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DominiConnor · 23/04/2007 14:59

Princesspeahead, I suspect that there needs to be some politics as part of your plan.
Head teachers do seem to like this crap, However teachers are really rather less than keen. But games teachers will possibly fear that their little empires will be diminished.

Where HM's like it is because they perceive a "marketing" benefit, thus I'd get parents on my side first, then go for teachers of academic subjects.
At our prep, there is none of this bollocks, and the school enjoys very good exam results indeed.
Given that part of the Saturday is chapel, I wonder if this is the time to convert to a faith implacably opposed to other faiths being taught to their kids.

Cammelia · 23/04/2007 15:01

My dd is at a prep which has hours 8:15 - 5:40 for her year (5) Mon, Tue, Thur,Fri, but the last 2 periods each day are for sport (this term, rounders and athletics).Wednesday is 8:15 - 4:00 but there are either matches or clubs/activities which can keep most of the children there longer. Saturday school is 2 out of every 3 because there are some boarders and 1 in every 3 is an exeat. The times are 8:15 - 12:35 and is for years 4 - 8. It is normal lessons. Matches are in the afternoons but mainly boys ie. cricket, hockey, rugby or football. The girls matches are usually on Wednesday afternoons ie hockey, netball, rounders.
Because the terms are so short I don't find it a big problem, basically term time is spent mainly at school.

PrincessPeaHead · 23/04/2007 15:01

ha ha ha ha

no chance of that sadly, esp with DH being patron of the living of several nearby parishes (and HM knows this!!)
would love to go and announce that actually we are now muslim

I think HM just needs to know lots of people (not just me) are implacably opposed. I shall get them to each make an appointment a day to complain to him about it and swamp him that way I think

so piglet, are you talking about PW?

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SueW · 23/04/2007 15:01

I know some people who have taken their children out of a prep school because of Saturday schooling.

However, I am also aware that this has been used as a selling point for the school to other parents, as boarding becomes an option from iirc Y3 and (paraphrasing from a convo with a friend) 'some parents find it is useful to be able to leave their child at school overnight on Friday so that they can go out for the evening and don't have to pick up until later on Saturday'.

We have to choose a senior school for DD next year. Choose between one on our doorstep which does Saturdays from Y9 onwards, hours are 8.40-4.15M-F plus after-school activities and has longer holidays or one which is a bus ride away, M-F 8.45-3.45, shorter holidays and better academic results. I really don't want DD doing Saturday school. This country has enough problems with people working too many hours without educating continuing generations into thinking a six day week is normal.

piglit · 23/04/2007 15:01

We are Hampshire/Wiltshire border in New Forest.

Do you know if the other parents feel the same way? If so, you might have a hope of persuading the head to drop Sat school.

piglit · 23/04/2007 15:03

I'm talking about FSM.

SueW · 23/04/2007 15:03

Have another friend who has bought a small house for term time close to her children's school as you suggest pph.

PrincessPeaHead · 23/04/2007 15:03

I agree with you 100% Sue. I am so NOT one of those parents

Piglit - you are talking about F probably (RC?)
have nieces and nephews there
they asked the parents there if they wanted school on bank hols and they voted YES

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LIZS · 23/04/2007 15:05

Not ours - goes up to yr8. There are matches and occasional compulsory attendance days (once or twice a year) at weekends though. Teaching hours 8.15 to 4.15 plus Prep in Upper School. Is it partly a boarding school, seems to be more common there.

PrincessPeaHead · 23/04/2007 15:06

yes we are partly boarding
but really only weekly, there are barely any (none) who do full boarding
maybe a few army children
no reason to bugger up the rest of the children's weekends though IMO

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piglit · 23/04/2007 15:07

Sounds like your only option is to let the head know how you and other parents feel - you have nothing to lose. And, as you say, 4 children there makes you a major contributor to school funds and a very interested party!

PrincessPeaHead · 23/04/2007 15:07

yup.

wish me luck everyone.

if anyone is interested I'll report back on his reaction later!!

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piglit · 23/04/2007 15:10

Good luck!

If it comes to changing schools I can thoroughly recommend FSM near Fordingbridge.... [joke]

PrincessPeaHead · 23/04/2007 15:11

oh, got you, no that's miles away! i thought you meant Farleigh... wondered what the SM was

thanks

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PrincessPeaHead · 23/04/2007 19:05

Well if anyone is interested, HM was superb. Told him I wasn't a fan of saturday school, school week was long enough (too long), weekend should be family time, couldn't see the benefit to the child etc etc, didn't object to matches but if he couldn't fit in everything in the week then why couldn't he lop time off our very long hols or lose some extra curricular stuff. but the long and the short of it was I couldn't see myself bringing dd to sat school.

he was not at all defensive, thought I had some great ideas, was surprised to hear that lots of parents loathed the idea of sat school (thought they were just ambivalent), agreed that school hours were too long, said they were just looking at the curriculum to try and finish everyone during the week at 4.15 and do only optional extras and optional prep afterwards, would now also look closely at sat school and how it should change.

thinks having an optional programme every other sat mornings (eg cricket nets, some music, etc) with fixtures in the afternoon might work well, which I'd be completely happy with. he knew about sherborne prep (we have a governor in common) and said he was going to speak to them and a few other schools who had scrapped sat school to see how they had rejigged it - basically the whole conversation couldn't have gone better.
spoke for about an hour.

I am so impressed. And reasonably confident that things will change. And he also told me that even if things didn't change immediately (as it would require a fundamental alteration in the whole timetable) that if I felt strongly about it dd needn't go, but he thought I had raised so many interesting issues about the whole timetable that he was quite fired up about changing it

so the moral of the story is - if you don't like it, tell them!

I'm so relieved

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Enid · 23/04/2007 19:07

how satisfying

almost makes me want to go private

PrincessPeaHead · 23/04/2007 19:12

he he enid

well you do have the very definite advantage that you are a customer buying a service so they have to listen to you and be polite and change their service if enough people require it...

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PrincessPeaHead · 23/04/2007 19:13

enid
what is the skinny on SSG and the new headmistress?
he thinks I ought to go look
I think it is too far
they send me invites seemingly once a week

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PrincessPeaHead · 23/04/2007 19:19

oi enid where have you GORN?

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islandofsodor · 23/04/2007 19:20

Dd's schools doesn't have it and none of the others do far as I am aware except the seniors have things like army corps things on a Saturday morning that are optional.

Dd does Stagecoach as do several inependant school children in the area so it would be a no go for her anyway.

Enid · 23/04/2007 19:22

sorry

your alma mater you mean?

excellent actually. have been considering it rather than L for dd1 although it is VERY academic and she is not really. Have a friend with two girls there and they are both lovely. She has a few ishoos with new regime but generally it is thought to be a Good Thing. lush new swimming pool about to be built too.