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Handwriting letting him down (to put it mildly)

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drspouse · 12/12/2017 16:28

DS is in Y1 and you can't read a word he's written. You can just about tell if he's writing a T or an O or maybe that could be a Z or an S, maybe, but beyond that it's guesswork. All the letters that have a curve and a tail (a, b, d, g, h, p, q, y) look the same as they are a circle with a random line or two somewhere on them. Also everything is enormous and all over the page (he'll start somewhere in the middle, write the letters in order, but end up in the next county).

We're hoping for a referral soon to investigate dyspraxia.
The class has spelling tests and they are sent home with words to practice - and they have a Big Write each week, and various other writing things in class. He does practice at home and if I ask him the letters in the word he can sometimes get them.

So, not surprisingly, he's just come home with a report saying "not meeting targets" in writing and SPAG (though he can do phonics quite happily and is fine in reading, just needs to speed up a bit).

I think I'm most concerned that his writing isn't improving, but for his own well being I think it's a bit unfair that he gets 0 every single week in his spelling when he can usually try one or two of the words and quite often (if you watch what he's writing and he tells you which letters it is) gets them right.

Firstly any tips for really helping his writing? We do practice pencil skills most days, nice grips on pens, please don't tell me about "strengthening his shoulders" as I have looked it up and it has not been shown to help, he's not great at other fine motor skills either but frankly it's enough hassle to get him to practice his pencil skills so it's going to have to be something he'd really LOVE to do (sorry I know that is NOT helpful - oh and also he has zero interest in Lego)

Secondly is it fair to ask the school not to make him write out his spellings? Should they be letting him skip the test? Or letting him do it in plastic letters or something?

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1981trouble · 12/12/2017 18:07

Oh and martial arts activities are known to help with writing too.

I just saw someone else mention climbing - we did a bit in the summer and ds couldn't do it, a huge improvement recently in his writing skills and general fine motor skills and went last week to climbing again and he did loads so my extremely flawed scientific experiment based on one subject says that is certainly linked ConfusedGrin

theEagleIsLost · 12/12/2017 18:10

Write from the start
Speed Up The black board bit of that seemed to help one of mine as did bandage exercise.

Writing slope helped for a bit and tried loads of different grips and pens and pencils.

Plus a lot of the things on 1981trouble list.

drspouse · 12/12/2017 18:12

1981 Dyspraxia, not dyslexia - he's a pretty good reader.
We've not tried Knex, worth a look!
He does love building things, just not with Lego!
He isn't any clearer on a white board - just messier!
On the gross motor side, I'm not saying we do nothing. He swims and does tap dancing. He's too young for climbing lessons here. I'm not letting him loose on anything involving hitting I'm afraid! We have enough of that without him being taught how.

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theEagleIsLost · 12/12/2017 18:12

easily than pencil on paper so are less tiring to use

We found some really smooth pens - I think from Wilkos which seem to help our eldest not get so tired when writing large amounts.

2gorgeousboys · 12/12/2017 18:12

DS2 is just like this, spent the whole of primary school being told he needed to improve his handwriting and speed. He would get 10/10 when doing his spellings verbally but written down they were completely illegible. Finally got taken seriously in year 5 and he was diagnosed with Dysgraphia and Mears-Irlan syndrome in year 6.

He's now in year 9 and uses a keyboard for most of his school work and also works off green paper/has a green overlay.

It was really hard and took a lot of pushing for us to be taken seriously that there was a problem and not just "boys have messy writing" or "he's lazy".

I'd second anything to improve fine and gross motor skills, they may not improve but I've not seen any evidence of them doing any harm. If it's done around play and exercise it can't be a detriment!

2gorgeousboys · 12/12/2017 18:14

@1981trouble I second the martial arts. DS2 did karate for a while and the discipline and control really helped as did rugby - throwing, catching, balance etc.

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 12/12/2017 18:15

drspouse just out of curiosity does your son's class still do painting/colouring/art?
The reason I ask is that in DD's YR 1 class painting etc was still encouraged/done (obviously not as heavily as in Reception) as it is excellent at developing fine motor skills.

drspouse · 12/12/2017 18:17

Octons! Just realised DS has "first Octons". I'll get him the next set. He loves the ones he has!

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Tomorrowillbeachicken · 12/12/2017 18:18

Since dyspraxia loves company, has he been checked out for other issues (SPD, ASD, dyslexia, dysgraphia, adhd etc)?

drspouse · 12/12/2017 18:20

I think they do quite a lot of art (it is thankfully quite play based/child led). His drawing is now actually recognisable which is frankly astonishing given he couldn't draw a cross 18 months ago.
Really, sorry, but no sports involving hitting or fighting. Just no.

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drspouse · 12/12/2017 18:21

Tomorrow Yep it does doesn't it? ASD ruled out already by paeds and us. ADHD investigation also on the cards.

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drspouse · 12/12/2017 18:22

(And his phonics are fine if he concentrates!)

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Whatififall · 12/12/2017 18:25

DD was given an easel type thing in yr2 to write at a slope and special pencil grips. It helped a little but now in yr3 her writing is still very poor.
I had thought of dyslexia as she struggled with reading/spelling/number placement but school said they couldn't assess until she was 7. Then her reading just came on, like she suddenly just got it.
However, her writing/spelling has not matched this development. I've done a bit of googling about dysgraphia but school were really dismissive of that. I'm not really sure what to do now.

sumofparts · 12/12/2017 18:28

This was my son last year. We were so worried but in y2 he's improved a lot. His handwriting is still bad but in the normal range.
I think he just wasn't developed/ready. He HATED doing writing and it was a real battle to get him to practice at home.
5 is so little and we expect so much of them.

Tomorrowillbeachicken · 12/12/2017 18:28

My son dances, which helps with his gross motor.

1981trouble · 12/12/2017 18:36

Martial arts was an example because they are building strength by grabbing and moving arms in coordinated movements and in controlled ways. Any activity where they do that would help - gymnastics and dance, even yoga. (Don't assume martial arts is all about fighting either - at this age it's also how to fall safely and mental discipline and strategy, I can't remember which one it is but one of the disciplines isn't combat but techniques - just an area to look into more)

My ds is 5 and does climbing on climbing walls - again it's an activity which works on the strength in hands. He also plays tennis and rugby. You'll soon find ones which work for your ds, they don't have to be what anyone here suggests, just ones that use the hands in different ways.

drspouse · 12/12/2017 18:43

They won't let them climb at his age on our local wall and he hates ball games, but as I say he does swimming and dancing.

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user789653241 · 12/12/2017 19:46

I took my ds to local park with tiny climbing wall for small children with slide. He couldn't at first, but over time, he managed it, and he was so proud he was able to slide down.

Thirdshepherdfromtheleft · 12/12/2017 20:45

My ds is five and is very similar to what you have described. We have recently seen an OT and have a second appointment soon.
Here's what I've found helped at home:
The OT gave him some special putty and showed him some animals he had to make (crocodile) which would improve pincer grip.
You can also put tiny beads in the putty and get him to pick them out.
I play a silly game with ds, we call it meep, make our first two fingers and thumb on each hand into a kind of puppet and make them play games and talk to each other. Meep loves to write and gobbles up the pencil (puts pencil in the right position) and gives ds a helping hand (improves confidence and willingness)
I also talk to ds about spelling a word then draw a frame with boxes for each letter. That helps with position and size of the letters.
The smartie game is a sure winner, how many smarties can you pick up with tweezers in a minute (you get to eat them afterwards)
Writing in shaving foam, jelly, flour and sand are all fun and helpful activities too.
The OT suggested putting rice in a bowl and hiding tiny objects in it which they have to find by touch alone. That helps if tactile discrimination is an issue.

Regarding the spelling test at school, yes if you think he knows them then ask them to test him in a different way. Why not buy a pack of cards or box of plastic letters and practise at home with them, then send a note in with him saying "he knows these spellings, please use these to test" see if that helps.
Good luck!

Thirdshepherdfromtheleft · 12/12/2017 21:00

Also have you heard of "write from the start" it's a handwriting scheme based on building visual/perceptual skills I think and we've used it with some success.

drspouse · 12/12/2017 21:23

No but it looks interesting. Is it a workbook in other words is a used copy likely to be written on?

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Thirdshepherdfromtheleft · 12/12/2017 21:50

Yes you fill in every page I think, you can get them fairly cheaply on eBay though.

drspouse · 12/12/2017 22:02

Ok I'll try a new one from eBay.

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ChocolateIsAFruit · 13/12/2017 18:56

Things which we have done

Write from the start (you can get on Amazon)
Mazes
Dot to dot
Colouring
Lego
Playdough
Uses Faber Castell "grip" pencils and crayons.

Pincer games
Hama beads (only when slightly older)
Gross motor skills strengthening exercises from physio

Mehfruittea · 16/12/2017 10:28

My DS 6 is similar. Have a look at funky fingers on Pinterest. These are all fine motor skills ideas, often posted by teachers and OT’s.