Looking for poster with phonemes/graphemes combinations

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Last year mrz sent me a link to a nice poster with many (all?) grapheme-phonemes combinations. I have been looking all over, but I cannot find it. Can anyone help out?
What I mean is something like:
the -ee- sound can be spelt ee, ie, e, ey, e-e
the "ae" sound can be spelt a-e, ay, ai, ea
and so on ad infinitum...
Even Google has failed me (or more likely I have failed Google...)

OED gives ch o k l a t and k u b er d

Norest,
Thanks for the clarification.

Irvine,
Yes, I know how to look for pronunciation in a dictionary. I just cannot find graphemes to decode those words. Clearly if you use the phonetic alphabet you find in a dictionary everything is easier, but to me that and phonemes are different ways to look at pronunciation.

In any case, chocolate is in the list of decodable words supplied by the teacher along with blame and mistake...

I think you are totally missing a point here. all the words are decodable.
If it's decodable by a child or not depends on each child's ability.

I really think it's time for you to either change school, or take phonics teaching in your hand.
If you google pronunciaton on google, and if you know phonics code yourself, you should be able to apply all those knowledge to figure out graphemes etc. yourself when you encounter new words. It's simple.
Maybe you should learn phonics yourself first? It helped me a lot.

I think phonetic alphabet has corresponding phonics code.
/schwa/ === funny looking sign upside down and up right "e" connected together.

That's why I am asking how to decode "chocolate" and cupboard" because I cannot, and cannot find these two words broken down in meaningful (i.e. not one-off) graphemes.

Cupboard is a particularly interesting word... I was thinking about it and probably the fact that you cannot pronounce "pb" meant that "cup" and "board" were blended in one word, and the second vocalic sound (oa) became a schwa, so giving us "cabo(r)d". But if that is the case I find it difficult to fit it in a(ny) pattern.
Instead "cardboard" has remained two "distinct" words, and in a way, so has "breakfast"

Mrz said you skip "p" when pronouncing "cupboard" but spelling reflects origin. That's good enough for me. Maybe you are thinking too much.
I'm teaching my ds my native language, and sometimes how we pronounce words or use of words are just way it is,
"Chocolate" or cupboard" are the words my ds was able to decode at 4.
I wish I can explain better but I can't, since English isn't my first language. But my ds never had any problem because of my inadequate English ability, for him to learn in English.

Tbh, I wouldn't really bother trying to change the school, just concentrate on your dd if it was me.
Lucky 80% of children learn to read no matter what methods they use. Unfortunately, your dd1 must fall into 20% who doesn't.
You can't bring back years lost by trying to change school now. All the other children aren't your concern. I would just concentrate on your child.

*trying to change school, I mean trying the school to change the way they teach.
I still think changing actual school maybe a good idea after reading all those past threads.

Just to clarify, DD can read fine, she just seems unaware of how to spell and really she has NO working knowledge of phonics at all - what surprises /annoys me is that when I point it out the teacher always acts surprised, and then she agrees.
Anyway, this year at least my DD is having her work corrected and the teacher is making all the right noises. It makes a nice change from previous years.

One more thing, To say that "cupboard" is pronounced "cubo(r)d" is not the same as splitting into known graphemes. If the word is a one off, it is a one off and to me that means that all or part of it is not decodable.

Note that cupboard and board do NOT rhyme, unlike cardboard and board. So the question is, are there other instances where "pb"="b" and where "oa" becomes a schwa"? It could well possibly be, but I couldn't find any. In addition, the concept of "schwa" is so vague and imprecise, both pronunciation and spelling-wise, and yet it is the most common sound :( , but I digress.

Would it help to think that the second vowel sound in an English word is usually pronounced with a schwa sound?

To SPELL chocolate write it down in its sounds

ch o c o l a te

or maybe it's

ch o c o l a t e ( with the a and e linked as in a split diagraph?)

whichever, just talk about which sound's are easy to remember, which ones are more difficult. In this word you might find Ch/o easy, then have to remember the way of spelleing c, o and l are easy, then you deal with the schwah.

That's supposed to help but I see that written down it looks complicated. Hmmmm, honest it works with my DC, I think it works anyway.

As for spellings with the pb combintation I found these on Spelfabet website

Campbell

cupboard

raspberry

Have you seen the work of Anne Glennie of The Learning Zoo? Might be interesting as you are in Scotland and interested in phonics?

Thanks Paper. That is very helpful. Seeing cupboard in the context of similar words I am sure it will help.

Don't forget that "chocolate" drops the second "o". It's not even a schwa ;)

I have read a few articles by Anne Glennie. They were interesting, but not terribly relevant "on the front line". I think they are for a different readership.

Oh yes, you're right about the o in chocolate. It's a French word maybe and sounds better in French where the second o is pronounced?

“Just to clarify, DD can read fine, she just seems unaware of how to spell” for spelling we need to pronounce the word precisely emphasising the way it’s written rather than the how we say it in everyday speech.
I was taught many moons ago to say Wed nes day and Feb ru ary and Chris an the mum to help remember the spelling and it’s the same with cup board and choc o late. It’s a technique nothing to do with how we actually pronounce the word when chatting.

“Don't forget that "chocolate" drops the second "o". It's not even a schwa ;)” it really depends where you live. Here it’s common to say chocuhlat

Notes, the dictionary is the judge ;)

In any case, been to parents' night and the teacher said all the right things. It seems that the council is changing strategy (about time too...), hence the list of words by phoneme (useful) and the list of "tricky" words (useless). I told him that that my DD didn't like that list and to me as a learner didn't mean much. What is the point of learning "above" on its own when I can learn 10 words with similar spelling in one go? Patterns to me are much more useful. He agreed and said he would think about it.
Seemingly "above", "hear", "nine" and so on are commonly misspelt words. I don't see how singling them out like that is going to help, though.

Only if you speak with a RP accent which most don’t.

By the way, you know Norestformrz is mrz, don't you,OP? (No rest for mrz.)

Like Superman, she is now donning a disguise :D

In the MN Menu area, (top right, set of blue lines) there are Reviews of all sorts of things, - by parents, for parents - I think it says, including children's books, split by age range.

(I used to be just Ferguson, but got told off by MNHQ, so became Ferguson2 ! )

I haven't done much phonics for the purpose of teaching reading but from my linguistics degree I can see there are two pretty consistent patterns happening in cupboard - first is that unstressed syllables tend towards schwa. Secondly if you have two adjacent sounds which are the same place/manner of articulation but the first is voiceless (e.g. p) and the second voiced (b) you tend to lose the voiceless one. The same happens with t and d to make "sit down" sound more like "siddown" or k and g (back garden).

I am a bit surprised you couldn't "decode" her new username, tbh, OP.
Maybe there lies the problem of your dd1 not decoding.

Hahahaha, it goes without saying that I cannot decode ;) also, I never read usernames... They are usually far to long and... can't really be bothered, so I stop after the first few letters.

New_mrz, where you banned or something?

Una, thanks, that's very informative.

No what I mean is you have quoted me as irving in the past, and read Norest as Notes, I assumed you are using whole word recognition rather than decoding.

No, mrz wasn't banned.
She left, and came back after pleading from us.

No, that's the automatic spell checker.
Said that, I do do that. I read long complicated words I don't need to know, like usernames..., in a "personal" fashion.