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Opinions wanted. Infant primary or primary junior for educationally advanced kid?

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Athena404 · 30/08/2017 20:45

There is a lovely little school near me I'm thinking of sending my child to. Trouble is it's just an infant primary (ie only until year 2). I'm not sure if this will cause an issue as recently his Paediatrician assessed him as being 2 years educationally advanced from his corrected age which would mean 3 school years. There is a primary junior close but it definitely doesn't seem as good or nice. But I don't know if that would be better for him. Has anyone gone through this before? What would you suggest?

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Out2pasture · 01/09/2017 00:14

why do OP's not realize that people can search their previous posts?
honestly makes it easy to understand why people say they only believe 1/10th of what they read on here.

MsJolly · 01/09/2017 00:26

No need to be rude @athena just because no ones bowing down to your belief that your son is amazingly gifted and should be taught with older children! He is in the normal range-this has been said by numerous folk on this thread. Please listen-though I suspect you won't as you're too caught up in the whole "gifted" thing. We all like to be proud of our children and their accomplishments, but you have to rein it in-I am sure he is a super little boy-have fun with him and stop the pushing to write etc.

All those children who start off reading/writing before they start school, may start ahead but I can honestly tell you that by the end of reception and certainly yr1-most have caught up. True outliers are quite rare at this stage and am really sorry but I don't think your son is one of those-that would be a child 5-6 yrs ahead.

He is 3 FFS and taking in account this thread and the other where you are making him get upset for mistakes then I would say you are pushing too hard and he is going to start hating learning at some point and switch off.

Let him be a 3 year old.

Also read up on Growth Mindset-we never say our kids are making mistakes as it's all part of the learning process so it's "ok, so what can we do to this, how can we make it even better, and ok so we can't do that YET but we will soon" etc

pieceofpurplesky · 01/09/2017 00:32

OP this thread has disturbed me in that your three year old is upset when he makes a mistake. You need to lay off and let him be three. You are setting him up for a lifetime of anxiety and lack of self belief. Please let him be a child. If he is bright/gifted/exceptional he will shine in his own time, when he is ready. Forcing him will have the opposite impact

Logans · 01/09/2017 00:36

From another thread (yes, bad form) the OP's DC is 4 and is at Year 2 Standard apparently.

And

Recently I noticed my son has been doing alot of things the wrong way round. For example he reads was as saw, draws 5s as 2s, his rs are backwards, and will occasionally write a word like drow. He didn't used to do this and now he's doing it increasingly. Is there something I should be doing to help him stop? I don't even think he realises he does it

So I think we can assume his handwriting isn't at a Year 2 standard.

Logans · 01/09/2017 00:45

Athena

Do you understand the basic differences between a Paediatric Developmental Assessment and testing of knowledge of the National Curriculum (and / or an Ed Psych assessment, though you've not indicated you've had one).

I'm asking as your posts seem to indicate you don't understand the difference.

Athena404 · 01/09/2017 00:51

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Orangebird69 · 01/09/2017 00:56

Lol. I don't think it's the idiots making stuff up Athena - that would be you methinks. 🤔

Out2pasture · 01/09/2017 01:01

Athena404 looks like you are the one making stuff up.

Lowdoorinthewal1 · 01/09/2017 08:22

OP, my advice to you would be to focus your energy on your DC's extra curricular activities.

Lots and lots of kids get the top academic grades. However, at points of selection- whatever it is you want, big bursary to an academic prep/ independent school or entry to a very top university- they will be looking for kids who have more in their lives than just grades. So start thinking about what opportunities you can give your DS out of school.

They will also be looking for a sparky, switched on kids who love learning which is another reason to stop stressing about handwriting and whether his Infant school will have copies of War and Peace for him to read.

BackforGood · 01/09/2017 09:50

I don't see any idiots or made up stuff amongst the replies you've had.
I hadn't realised it was the same OP as the other thread re reversing writing pre-school.
Poor little sausage.

MsJolly · 01/09/2017 09:54

"The idiots have arrived"!!! WTAF?

You are so rude to people just trying to help you. Your child is 3, you are pushing him too hard when he should just be learning through play.

He may indeed be 2 yrs ahead in some areas, but as has been said numerous times, that is in the normal parameters and doesn't actually mean that he is ready to do his end of yr2 SATS-he has a lot of learning to do before then. Yes, he may continue to flourish and grow and may indeed be super bright, that's great, but just enjoy him and your time together.

MrsKCastle · 01/09/2017 10:20

Athena, many posters on here are genuinely trying to help and explain things to you. Like others, I'm suspicious about a paedietrician knowing enough about the National Curriculum to assess your child as being at the level of an average child going into Y2.

Have you had a look at the National Curriculum to see what is expected at the end of Y1? Is your DS a fairly fluent reader with good comprehension skills? Could he write a story or report independently with many words spelt correctly and correct use of full stops and capitals? Can he double and halve numbers up to 20, solve simple word problems, use simple multiplication? Or is going beyond these things?

Maybe if you give some examples of what he is doing now, we could better understand what his needs might be and whether/ to what extent they differ from the kind of 'bright' children that can be found in every reception class.

Either way, a good infant school should be well able to teach and challenge him, but you should visit any schools that you are considering and ask them about their resources and how they stretch the higher achievers.

CruCru · 01/09/2017 12:03

I don't think the two threads necessarily contradict each other. The child is 3ish and already reading and writing (although some letters and numbers get written backwards - still impressive for a child not yet in school).

When the child starts school, he may be the most advanced - but he may also not be. When my son started Reception, another classmate (not the oldest) was already reading chapter books.

It sounds as though you are very committed to your child's education (which is great). I think it's important not to go in assuming that they will be the cleverest - partly because they may not be and partly because it may wind your child's teacher up. A good teacher will be able to find differentiated work for child of different abilities.

Appuskidu · 01/09/2017 12:20

Ok the idiots have arrived and are just making stuff up. I'm just going to leave this thread now

Unfortunately, I would say the poster with the most 'made up' stuff on here is you.

user789653241 · 01/09/2017 14:02

OP, I feel so sad to see your last post. "Why?" is screaming in my head, since there was a very similar poster who acted exactly like you with similarly advanced dc. Sometimes you get some advice you may not agree. But most of the posters are only trying to help.
All the advice you can get from MN is priceless, especially after your ds started school.
There are so many teachers who are willing to give us great advice, and fellow parents willing to share info and experience.
So, please, if you are willing to stay on MN, it's better to be nice and humble. You don't need to agree, but no point of being rude to the poster who have different opinions.

Tomorrowillbeachicken · 01/09/2017 14:43

I'd say the children who retain knowledge a lot faster than the average rather than children who learn early but keep the same distance ahead are more of an issue tbh. If a child has a memory capable of retaining after only a couple of repetitions or works out the next steps autonomously you could end up with a lot of issues.

However, if the child has been tutored early there is also a good chance they can become within the normal range quickly too.

Logans · 01/09/2017 15:25

Her DC is 4 years old, not 3.

Logans · 01/09/2017 15:40

Ok the idiots have arrived and are just making stuff up. I'm just going to leave this thread now

LOL OP. Yes, clearly everybody is an idiot except you and your educationally advanced son. Maybe you can ask him to explain the difference between developmental milestones and the National Curriculum to you

I can't wait for your new thread in September: "Outraged that idiot teacher refuses to send my educationally advanced Reception child to the Y2 class". I can just tell that you will be so popular with the teachers OP! Crack on OP, so that we can enjoy the resulting threads! 🍿🍿🍿

clary · 01/09/2017 16:19

I assume he is 3 actually. If he were four she would already have sorted school to start next week - which it sounds like she hasn't, from this thread.

mrz · 01/09/2017 16:23

Logans I don't think the OP has ever said how old her child is despite being asked by numerous people. Perhaps we'll never know

Appuskidu · 01/09/2017 16:26

DC is 4 years old, not 3.

Where does it say that, Logan?

If they were 4, I would presume school places would be long sorted (to start next week) and they would have visited the school, met the teacher and asked all these question already.

Bekabeech · 01/09/2017 16:37

If the Primary school isn't as good, then that should make the choice for you.
Yes a Primary school will have books suitable for year 6, but quite a lot of those books are not suitable for a year 4 or year 3 or year 2 - even if they can read them. Often the subject matter is too emotionally/socially advanced for them. You can't teach an advanced child just like one a couple of years older (which is another problem with putting children up a year).

Logans · 01/09/2017 16:53

Cary, Mrz, Appu

As I mentioned in my previous post upthread, if you Advance Search the OP you can read another of her threads where she says 4 years old.

mrz · 01/09/2017 17:00

I can't find where she says four on any thread

clary · 01/09/2017 17:10

Other people say four on the backwards words thread but the OP never says

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