Reading: Groups of letters which make the same sound - help needed to find definitive list

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My ds is a good reader (in reception) but has progressed so quickly that I am worried he has not picked up on all the combinations of letters which make the same sound.

eg: a, ay, ai, eigh, a-e

Does anyone know of a website which lists these ?

Many thanks

what scheme are they doing

I bought the Jolly Phonics wall charts when my DS was in reception .. there's a jollyphonics site but you can also get them on amazon

but in phonics

a is a short a as in 'rabbit'

the ai thing would be picked up with

'2 vowels together go a-walking
only the first one does the talking
and it says its name'

the eigh as in eight/weight (can't think of another example) would be a tricky word learned on sight because you also have the same combination in sleight don't you

don't understand what you're getting at with the a-e bit though

hth and doesn't confuse too much

They are doing JP - just looked on the JollyLearning site - no joy for the combination of letters

Thanks twig

late, mate - ie I was taught that the magic e at the end of the word changed the a into ay

Never heard of the walking talking vowels - what about great - again the ay sound - second vowel now hogging the conversation

am I not understanding what the problem is because the wall frieze / posters do have the letter combinations on them

some of them don't have rules though

MY ds's school doesn't teach them Phonics. THey use THRASS to teach them the letters. THRASS teaches them the sounds of the letters eg a sounds different in the words apple and baby. IM sure you can find info about THRASS on the net.

there are exceptions to all the rules which just have to be learned as 'tricky words'

the magic e still exists for late / mate etc

Checked the wall charts again and they only deal with the basic digraphs ie sh, ch, ee, or etc.

As he whizzed past stages 4 and 5 in ORT we had a couple of interesting books - such as Sue Kangeroo - which dealt with all the different ways the sound an oo/ew/ue could be made

It is these types of letter combinations I am after

Many thanks for your help so far

I'd ask the teacher

sorry I can't help

I do believe that there's only the 47 'rules' because the others aren't consistent enough to be learned as a rule

Thanks Twig - have already asked, but I know she is incredibly busy so thought it would be quicker to ask on MN as someone might be able to point me in the direction of a relevant website - it doesn't help that I don't know the correct english expression for such pairings of letters when googling

isn't it a dipthong?

If you go to the Ruth Miskin website and from there to the 'Parents' page you should be able to download the powerpoint presentation that contains all the phonic sounds. I think you can even get an audio version. We bought the very nicely illustrated and well-made phonic sound flashcards for DD1 as I became so concerned that her school was failing to teach the more complex phonics. In fact, I needn't have worried as they are covering all the phonics in Yr 1.

Perfect Issymum - thank you so much

Twig - apparently they are graphemes

Is this any use?

www.syntheticphonics.com/scroll.pdf

Your son is doing really well.