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How often a teacher can be absent

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jamijam · 14/07/2017 20:45

Hi Mums
My son teacher was absent at least 2 days a week due to demand to the federation and sometimes more that.
It happened that they had her just for 1 day as well.
Do you think it's acceptable ?
Also the school my children attend can be funny they have this green form that they give to children f they do not behave.
1 day my son had an argument with one of his peer he said to him my dad will come a kick you at the end of the day.
We found that a little bit over the top.
SO my husband told the teacher that we had enough of them not knowing how to deal with this and just presenting thing as ohhh your child was naughty he had a green form as the do this for very little thing. He mentioned as well that we had enough of the school and we will change him school as he his on waiting list.

When I had a meeting with the head teacher I have told her about this and surprised the teacher yesterday telling me again about this (that happened 2 months ago) and trying to pick on my husband telling me that my son has changed since this incident that he does not focus at schools and I am like well what the link between this 2 I don't get it.
And here we go Ohh your husband told he will remove Adam from the school so Adam surely think he cannot stay focused at school.

So she think my husband is a bad example to my son??

Well I looked at her and in myself I thought What an idiot you are to think this. But told her just I don't think so..
Jus found easy from a teacher to always try to discredit parent.

1 day my son says the word sex I did not know the context at that time but after that was not him who started but just to cut short.
Teacher calling me to ask which kind of program I am watching on TV ?

Teacher tend to think that because they have our children they can control parent and I feel like sometimes they feel powerful over us.

What do you think ? How would you deal with a teacher who try to put you down ?
All comment welcome.
Thanks

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MaisyPops · 15/07/2017 08:34

School don't have to inform you of their staffing arrangements.

You and your husband openly show your dislike of the school to your child and then you wonder why he is getting behaviour slips left, right and centre. You also excuse him threatening another child because the child was annoying him.

The message your child is getting is he can behave how he likes, threaten other children, ignore the teacher and his parents will blame everyone other than him because he's just a normal child.

ShipwreckedAndComatose · 15/07/2017 08:53

I would move him to another school. You don't trust the school and this is the most important thing for your son to be successful.

When you are questioning everything they do, your son picks up on that and he attitude to lessons will be affected.

Find a school you can support and work with.

Starlight2345 · 15/07/2017 09:38

The two big concerns for me in this thread , was he threatened another boy because he was annoying him.It sounds as though everything he does is explained away.

Somethings my DS gets in trouble for are not major issues however as classroom management goes , you can't ignore the low grade behaviours from some as then everyone can behave the same way.

Your openess about the teacher cannot be undone so unless you have a different teacher next year, next year will be the same..You need to set down what is expected od your DS behaviour next year..You do need to support the schools disipline in from of your child , any real issues discuss privately..However if you don't feel you can generally leave them to do there job then you do need to move him but still lay down how he is expected to behave.

LittleIda · 15/07/2017 10:43

How is the school move that you told them about progressing?
If you are not planning on moving your son after all you are going to have to start supporting the school in dealing with your son's behaviour and focus and letting your son know you will do this. Have you impressed on your son how unacceptable it was for him to threaten that his dad would kick another child?

LittleIda · 15/07/2017 10:46

Who is covering when the teacher is absent? Dc have sometimes had two teachers job sharing the class teacher role and it has never been a problem at all.

cantkeepawayforever · 15/07/2017 11:05

On staffing arrangements:

  • Any teacher, in any school, will have half a day per week (sometimes given as a full day per fortnight) of non-contact time, when a second teacher, or higher level TA using plans provided by a teacher, will take the class.
  • Newly-qualified teachers have double this amount of non-contact time, so a full day per week or two separate half days.
  • Senior leaders in larger schools- e.g. leader of e.g. English or Maths - may also have allocated 'management time' of an hour or so per week, covered by another teacher or TA as above.
  • Many schools also have part-time or jobshare teachers, either because the main teacher has significant management responsibilities (deputy head, SENCo) and the school has chosen to give them only part-time class responsibilities, or because the class has two teachers who are each employed for part of a week.
  • In addition, teachers can be, and are, released from class and covered by a regular or occasional supply teacher for e.g. training courses, visits to other schools etc. This can be an occasional day or a regular commitment (e.g. some years ago I did a 6 week course, so was released from class 1 afternoon a week for 6 weeks)

The discipline issue is separate. Support - or at least lack of undermining - from parents for reasonable discipline issues such as threatening another child, is a reasonable expectation from the school. A very clear and overt lack of this support, such as your DH telling your child that instead of supporting the school in their discipline measures he will move your son to another school, will tend to raise some alarm bells. If this is followed by a clear deterioration in behaviour from the child, that WILL be noticed.

I do not know whether other 'green form' incidents are trivial or unreasonable, but a threat of the type your child used to another child is a perfectly reasonable thing for the school to punish for.

Unless you can turn round your support for this school, and very clearly demonstrate this support to your DS, I would strongly suggest you seek a school move and a new start over the summer, and be very careful in how you represent the new school to your DS. It is likely that even in a new environment, he may still think 'if I don't like this school, and behave badly, my parents won't deal with it - they'll just move me again and I'll get away with it'. Only by absolutely consistently supporting the school and cracking down on any bad behaviour and poor attitude will you turn his behaviour around.

greathat · 15/07/2017 11:09

You need to move schools and support the school this time. Your child will have no respect for his teachers as he will have copied your example

RebelRogue · 15/07/2017 12:21
  1. Threatening another child is serious enough
  1. Yes, children that know they will be moving school sometimes will give up behaving/doing work in class if they know an "end" is near. Even more so when the parents don't back up the school. I can give several examples for this.
  1. If it's part of the teacher's contract to go into other schools,then there's nothing she can do about it. As long as your son is getting appropriate education,from qualified people then this should not be an issue.
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