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How many children begin reception having met the early learning goals?

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Chicoletta357 · 30/06/2017 20:54

My apologies for lack of knowledge but received my Dd's (pre school and 4) report this week and is 40-60+ months for all aspects. Being my pfb ( and one of the oldest) I thought that she might be slightly above for communication and psed. Did your children begin reception having met the early learning goals or should I be happy? Thank you and I should probably relax and drink 🍹!

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RingTailedLemurFan · 30/06/2017 20:57

What's psed? Is this a stealth boast?

Hulababy · 30/06/2017 20:58

Do you know to what extent - emerging/entering, at/secure, exceeding?
And any reference to the Early Learning Goals themselves?

Snap8TheCat · 30/06/2017 20:58

Some do and age really does make a difference. My dd was 5 upon starting school and well on her way.

However in my experience and that of further through the education system, assessments by the next teacher tend to be re-evaluated and don't always match those of the last one!

Chicoletta357 · 30/06/2017 20:59

No not stealth at all! Sorry if it sounds like that! Psed- personal social emotional development.

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Snap8TheCat · 30/06/2017 20:59

Psed is personal social and emotional development.

mrz · 30/06/2017 21:00

I've often had children arrive from private nurseries apparently having achieved all the ELGs already. I'm yet to meet one who actually had.

OddBoots · 30/06/2017 21:01

I work in a pre-school and it is very rare I will grade a child in the ELG, sometimes they are showing signs of emerging into them but rarely consistently and to the level that I feel would meet moderation. It's not to say it doesn't happen but it is rare.

In the end though what we as staff in a pre-school say about a child hold no weight in terms of formal assessment so it is possible that when the school baseline they may feel her to be in her ELG in one or more areas.

Hulababy · 30/06/2017 21:01

Being 40-60+ is not the same as achieving the ELG.

Chicoletta357 · 30/06/2017 21:01

Thank you:) no mention of early learning goals and no indication of expecting, exceeding emerging. Just 40-60 months. I will relax and be happy she is where she should be. I suppose I feel quite guilty as we both with full time and haven't done as much with her as I thought I would. She is happy though and so I should be happy:)

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Chicoletta357 · 30/06/2017 21:05

Thank you all:) private nursery and very sensible teacher. I appreciate all of your helpful comments and really lucky to have had such a positive experience.

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RingTailedLemurFan · 30/06/2017 21:06

Definitely aim for happiness! I have one in Yr1 and one in preschool and although I used to worry about scores, assessments and would try and compare, happiness is key.

Enjoy your drink Smile

Hulababy · 30/06/2017 21:08

I suppose I feel quite guilty as we both with full time and haven't done as much with her as I thought I would.

Why feel guilty? She is working within expected levels and not being with any learning areas by the sounds of it. Presumably she is somewhere between the ages of 3y4m and 5y+.

Chicoletta357 · 30/06/2017 21:10

You're right! I always thought I wouldn't compare but it's hard sometimes wondering whether your children are at the right lovely, above and below and making sure you know so you can help. Thank
S!

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sirfredfredgeorge · 30/06/2017 21:10

You say she's one of the oldest, so she's what 55 months at least? So not working in the 40-60+ range would be something of concern wouldn't it?

I'm sure you should still be happy that your DD is not behind, it's a not a competition.

Chicoletta357 · 30/06/2017 21:16

Yes you're right:) am trying not to be 'that parent' and I feel happier and reassured now. She is 5 in September and the nursery have done a great job. The report clearly shows they know her and given me clear ways to help. I will relax and thank you all:)

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soundsystem · 30/06/2017 21:19

Is it maybe because they only look at the age range she is actually in, and not beyond? My DD is younger and in her report it only had whether she was/wasn't achieving the things expected at her age, not if she was doing more. So for example it notes that she can join two words together, when she speaks in full sentences. I queried this (as I wondered if perhaps she didn't speak as much at nursery!) and was told she was very chatty, spoke in sentences that were easy to understand etc, but her key worker said that's how she was asked to fill it in. So I wouldn't read too much into it.

RingTailedLemurFan · 30/06/2017 22:01

I used to be like you, but thankfully ds1 is in a lovely little infants school where they never compare, or talk about stats, figures, bench marks or levels...at least not to us anyway! I was getting frustrated at parents evenings as wanted to know where he was with his reading/writing compared to other pupils, but all his teachers talk about is that he's settled, has friends, plays nicely and is happy...which is all that matters when they're 4/5/6 imo!

They will have a lifetime of being compared and examined and scored ahead of them. Let them relax and learn through play for now Smile

BoraThirch · 30/06/2017 22:06

In my LEA we just use working within or secure for the age bands. I teach nursery and expected at this age is secure 30-50 or working within 40-60. ELG would be very unusual.

Naty1 · 30/06/2017 22:06

I dont think it should be surprising though as a sept born hitting end of rec targets in august at 4.11 is no different to a jul born hitting them at end of yr R at 5.
However i dont think the eyfs targets are very clear. As the level expected by end of yr r is more like reading pretty fluently at blue book band or more.
Of course there is also a temptation for teachers to mark them down so it looks like they have made a lot of progress.
(The teacher would say dd has gone from nothing to orange book band. I would say she has gone from red/yellow.)

catkind · 30/06/2017 22:10

If it's anything like DD's preschool, 40-60 is the highest they assess. DD was way beyond ELG in some aspects, but still assessed at 40-60. School then ignored anything from preschool and started off evidencing 40-60 again from scratch. Was quite amused at the first parents evening to be told DD was "starting to sound out cvc words" - she was doing that over 2 years earlier!

Swirlingasong · 30/06/2017 22:25

It's fine and you have nothing to worry about. My experience is that those reports tend towards the conservative. Also remember that nursery workers can only report on what they actually see and this can be quite different from what you see at home 1:1 with your child.

Tomorrowillbeachicken · 30/06/2017 22:43

Ds had met some by end of nursery, notably those in maths and verbal ones. He's oldest in year though and had met them all but the physical ones in February.
Teacher has already said that for some subjects he'll have to start yr1 working at greater depth as he does maths with yr above atm and reads and comprehends books a couple of years ahead. But on the maths he's doing what he could do when he started nursery.

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PotatoPrint · 01/07/2017 15:16

But 40-60 is between 3.5 and 5 which presumably your child is so it's not the ELG just working somewhere between 3.5 year old and 5 year old....

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