Year 5 homework help - adjective or determiner

[SirSidneyRuffDiamond]

DS has some homework in which he has to decide if a particular word in a sentence is a verb, noun, adverb, adjective, pronoun or determiner. There is room for only one written answer. In the sentence:

The recipe for beef pie calls for fourteen onions.

Is fourteen an adjective or a determiner? He (and I) thought it was both, but he is concerned that there is no space to write this. FYI he hates breaking rules, so writing outside the given box would annoy him.

I thought "determiner" is a type of adjective. So I would answer as "determiner", since the question seems to want him to distinguish between simple adjective and determiner. Can't he write his comment on post it or something along with his answer in the box, then ask the teacher for clarification?
But I am not a teacher, so I may be wrong.

Fourteen is a quantifier, which is a type of determiner!

In this case they are looking for 'determiner' in the box.
(Compare with the adjectives in 'The recipe calls for large onions.' 'The recipe calls for red onions.')

Pronoun is a type of noun, they presumably want the most specific term appropriate.

But ffs, I don't believe I can be the only middle aged, literate, well educated adult who has never heard the term 'determiner' before... does knowing this in any way improve their ability to use the English language? Glad my DD has finished (today, hooray) with school.

Errol, if your dd is finishing school today, she must be either in Scotland or private?
That's English state school kids have to face these days, with Sats.

I think that 'fourteen's an adjective.

www.learnersdictionary.com/definition/fourteen

Determiners are words like the/an/this/all/few.

grammar.yourdictionary.com/parts-of-speech/nouns/what/what-is-a-determiner.html

all the best

from that page:

"There are many other types of determiners. For instance, cardinal numbers, the numbers that are written out in English, are also included in the class of determiners."

and from the link that follows:

"cardinal number
noun
A number, such as 3 or 11 or 412, used in counting to indicate quantity but not order"

woman, are you sure?

www.theschoolrun.com/what-is-a-determiner

www.english-the-easy-way.com/Determiners/What_Are_Determiners.htm

www.grammar-monster.com/glossary/determiner.htm

Definitely a determiner because it tells you quantity. A determiner is use to express the relationship, the proximity or the quantity, whereas an adjective is about modifying or complementing.

So 'large onions' or 'pretty onions' are adjectives.
'fourteen onions' or 'close onions' or 'similar onions' are determiners

Ffs! Subcategories of adjective? Really a good use of educational time and energy?

Welcome to SpaG - there's lots more to come

Shall I shout?

IT'S A QUANTIFIER, WHICH IS A TYPE OF DETERMINER!

Teaching year 6 Grammar is an art form!

Fourteen is a determiner

spaineleyes

The sadist in me is slowly starting to love teaching SATs grammar as a kind of slightly torturous mind exercise. I am currently teaching back to back grammar test practise and algebra to my lot and it feels very similar!

It is, however, useless considered in any other context than an esoteric learning exercise.

Oh, and it's a determiner.

Google

woman, are you sure?
No
Depends on which school of grammar they want us to follow.
Some seem to say it's an adjective, but I can see it could be argued that it's a determiner which shows quantity.
Interesting.

Determiner (yr5 teacher!)

No, I don't see the point either!

I am currently teaching back to back grammar test practise and algebra to my lot and it feels very similar!

Practise or practice?

woman, I think I would like to follow English NC, which seems to be it's a "determiner". I hope you are not primary teacher.
I don't see the point either, but no choice for kids.

Thanks everyone. I did google, but there wasn't a definitive answer so thought I'd throw it out to the MN massif. He's settled on determiner (quantifier was not on the list).

SirSidneyRuffDiamond

Yes, defnitely a determiner - I've did a Bond SPAG book with one of mine over half term and taught myself the rule...!! (another middle age person with what I thought was pretty good grammar... but who had never had to look at determiners). Perhaps I should ask my mother who was educated in the early 1950s and no doubt does know what one is!!

Errol, if your dd is finishing school today, she must be either in Scotland or private?
That's English state school kids have to face these days, with Sats.

No, English state school - I mean she is finished as in last A level exam. She escaped with only one subject mucked about with modernised. Sats were fairly ok when she had to do them. And gcses. The is deserved, I fear.

Fourteen is not describing the onions, i.e. the onions are not fourteen, so it is not used as an adjective in this sentence.