CAT4 scores

[kashif68]

Hi
My Son took the CAT4 in 2nd week of May 17 . We have moved from another country. And just been around 04 weeks in the new environment, curriculum and age 10yr11m.
His CAT4 are below average which seem surprising as he was getting 95% marks in his previous school. Maybe text anxiety new environment, maybe.
Verbal: 81
Quantitative: 77
Non-verbal: 81
Spatial: 62

He was taken in Y6 at the end of term 2. Came across a lot of new concepts etc. Has skipped Y4 and Y5 as he was starting Y4 at previous school.

School wants to move him to Y7 with learning support and we are contesting to move him back to Y5 (which we wanted him to start initially at the time of admission

So need some insight.

He was doing great. 95%+ . Not against seeing EP but just feel its too early

But 95% in what? Are you talking about learning spelling lists and times tables or topic tests? Will he need to take an entrance test for a senior at 13+ , Common Entrance or even a pretest sooner? It will depend on which school/s are on your radar and you need guidance from your current head as to what would be appropriate. That decision may be better informed by an Ed Psych report. The y7/8 curriculum in a Prep school will differ to that in a senior school starting at 11.

A lot things doesn't make sense. grade system is different in US and England. Grade4 doesn't equate yr4.
Even grade system differs, what they learn shouldn't differ so much as a right year group for the age, so don't get he gets so many gaps in learning.
Doing great in former school and such a low cat score doesn't add up.
Maybe he is 2e(twice exceptional), and maybe Ed psych can find that out?

irvine his VR and NVR scores are virtually identical, which makes it unlikely he has SEN. If there was 10 points between them it would be likely he has SEN.

95% in a US school system doesn't translate to anything in the UK system. Teachers don't give tests here which you're supposed to get 100% on. But US teachers do.

These CAT tests are meant to be IQ measures and not related to what you've been taught. Which is why you need a full EP test done to find out what his IQ is. Because school don't think he has SEN, they think he has low intelligence. Which again is why they don't think moving him down a year will help.

Are those scores his actual scores or are they the centile scores?

95% over all class standing in annual assessment exams or bi annual. He was mostly Grade A, 1st or 2nd position in class of 30.

how do you define a prep school from senior school?

He was going to start Year 4 in his previous school. Not necessarily that they will be teaching similar things in starting Grade 4 which are being taught here in Y 6 (Fractions, mixed fractions, word problems, geometry, surface area etc.) English concepts like Past, present etc. active passive. What is 2e?

Any recommendation on EP in Kuala lumpur?

2e is something like gifted in one area and sen in other. Very spikey profile.

A prep school goes up to 11 or 13 and is either standalone, or feeds into a senior school at its finish age. Their aim is to get as many pupils into chosen secondary and use y7 and 8 to prepare for those entrance tests. The same years already in senior school will work on subjects towards selecting options for gcse etc. Are you not in UK? You may find although a school claims to follow a British curriculum it may still differ to the equivalent in UK. Does this prep prepare pupils for UK boarding schools or local private secondaries?

Hi

Yes they do, they have levels after secondary to GCSCE. I am in Malaysia. The school is member of COBIS (UK).

In English NC, word problems are taught from yr1, fractions from yr1, mixed numbers( mixed fraction) from yr4, surface area from yr3, from quick look on skills they learn in yr groups. And simplest geometry is taught from reception.

US grade 4 is equivalent to UK yr 5.

US system is behind UK teaching not ahead of it.

US students frequently have trouble understanding why they are not grade A students in the UK when they have been in the USA. As a previous poster said the US sets test where a large proportion of the class can exceed 90% (their A) whereas in the UK it is usual to stretch the children more to differentiate a wider range of gradings between the children and an A does not equate to an exact percentage in every test. It will depend upon the difficulty of the test.

The SENCO will be the learning support team - they just call it something different.

The reason they have suggested an Ed Pysch is because this is the only route that will allow your child extra time in exams etc. It is for your child's benefit and not something to be ashamed of.

I hope that clarifies matters for you.